Email from McLeish

[mozza]

If McLeish has composed this email - a similar amount of time spent at Bodymoor Heath
sorting out our defence & offense at set plays might see an improvement -

As others have commented - correspondence from Randy Lerner wouldn't go amiss either -

   

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If McLeish has composed this email - a similar amount of time spent at Bodymoor Heath
sorting out our defence & offense at set plays might see an improvement -

As others have commented - correspondence from Randy Lerner wouldn't go amiss either -

   

There’s only so much a manager can do. Some of the rrors are so fundamental, you cannot blame the manager. Take the last three we’ve conceded.

Warnock, Carlos and Dunne all want shooting.

[old man villa fan]

Received this from the club:


I have noticed a couple of comments on the threads from supporters who have not received today's email from Alex McLeish. Just to clarify the email was only sent to season ticket holders. If any of your members are current season ticket holders and did not receive the email, then we either don't have an email address registered for them or have they have previously unsubscribed from emails from the club. If this is the case, and any season ticket holder wants to register their email address with the club then they can simply call Consumer Sales on 0800 612 0970 and we will update their contact details.

Not being cynical but AM sends out an email that answers just about all of the points raised on here over the past few months in great detail and then you receive a communication from the club noting that some ST have not received the email.  Clearly the club have been monitoring this website to gauge reaction.  It looks to me as though it is a club PR job.

Sentiment of the content is good and it says all the right things but as a few others have said, the words need to be put into action.  It is easy to talk a good game, even I can do that (well I think so anyway!) but putting those words into action and getting the players to believe them and react to them is a different matter.

The jury is still out for me and I do not believe in kangaroo courts (unlike the participants in any marches/demonstrations) so will revisit my views at the end of the season.

I was interested in the comment about having a short pre-season.  He had 2 months almost to the day.  We must be the only club not to get a positive reaction (in results) after appointing a new manager.

[Risso]

Experienced?

I like the fact he's basically said he's a mouthy git who'll say what he thinks.

We're such a nice bunch of wetters. We never seem to have ever had a nasty streak.

For me the very worst kind of boss (in any walk of life) are the sort who are mouthy and vociferous, but are crap at what they do.  Staff never respect them, and they get crap results.  That's basically how I see McLeish.

[dave.woodhall]

Not being cynical but AM sends out an email that answers just about all of the points raised on here over the past few months in great detail and then you receive a communication from the club noting that some ST have not received the email.  Clearly the club have been monitoring this website to gauge reaction.  It looks to me as though it is a club PR job.

Of course it's a PR job, and as that's what a lot of complaints have been about, then good for them for addressing one issue at least. And if they want to gauge opinions on one site, this is the one to look at.   

[Legion]

Not being cynical but AM sends out an email that answers just about all of the points raised on here over the past few months in great detail and then you receive a communication from the club noting that some ST have not received the email.  Clearly the club have been monitoring this website to gauge reaction.  It looks to me as though it is a club PR job.

Of course it's a PR job, and as that's what a lot of complaints have been about, then good for them for addressing one issue at least. And if they want to gauge opinions on one site, this is the one to look at.   

Exactly.

[Greg N'Ash]

well it is a PR job but i don't think the club have been sneaky about it. All it says is AM basically acknowledges things have gone wrong in some areas and makes us aware that he's aware of our grumbles. Bottom line is if we have a crap 2nd half of the season no-one will take any notice of this E-mail, good PR or not.

[PaulTheVillan]

Have Villa got email addresses for all ST Holders? I doubt it.

[old man villa fan]

Not being cynical but AM sends out an email that answers just about all of the points raised on here over the past few months in great detail and then you receive a communication from the club noting that some ST have not received the email.  Clearly the club have been monitoring this website to gauge reaction.  It looks to me as though it is a club PR job.

Of course it's a PR job, and as that's what a lot of complaints have been about, then good for them for addressing one issue at least. And if they want to gauge opinions on one site, this is the one to look at.   

You're right about this site, the most diverse in opinions but generally the most civilised in putting them over.

The problem for me with the PR stuff is that I want to hear about the future for the club which revolves around the finances and the club strategy, not the so called thoughts of the manager on the playing side when it only states the obvious that all can see for their own eyes.  If he wants to communicate about playing matters, I want to hear why we cannot defend set-pieces, why he cannot get his points over to the team, why he keeps playing Heskey etc.

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Experienced?

I like the fact he's basically said he's a mouthy git who'll say what he thinks.

We're such a nice bunch of wetters. We never seem to have ever had a nasty streak.

For me the very worst kind of boss (in any walk of life) are the sort who are mouthy and vociferous, but are crap at what they do.  Staff never respect them, and they get crap results.  That's basically how I see McLeish.

Eh?
I was talking about Mcliesh’ description of Keane.

[Top Cat]

Thanks for that Dave, but:

1. I am a ST holder
2. I have not received the E-Mail
3. I have a registered E-Mail address with them that I get plenty of communications sent to
4. I have never unsubscribed

Same as me.

[Greg N'Ash]

Not being cynical but AM sends out an email that answers just about all of the points raised on here over the past few months in great detail and then you receive a communication from the club noting that some ST have not received the email.  Clearly the club have been monitoring this website to gauge reaction.  It looks to me as though it is a club PR job.

Of course it's a PR job, and as that's what a lot of complaints have been about, then good for them for addressing one issue at least. And if they want to gauge opinions on one site, this is the one to look at.   

You're right about this site, the most diverse in opinions but generally the most civilised in putting them over.

The problem for me with the PR stuff is that I want to hear about the future for the club which revolves around the finances and the club strategy, not the so called thoughts of the manager on the playing side when it only states the obvious that all can see for their own eyes.  If he wants to communicate about playing matters, I want to hear why we cannot defend set-pieces, why he cannot get his points over to the team, why he keeps playing Heskey etc.

To be fair no manager is going to comment on the financial matters becuase its not his mandate unless he's being given the nod by the chairman. Likewise he can't say "we're crap at set-pieces because we've got crap defenders" because he has to work with them for the rest of the season. Could have answered the Heskey question though, just to rule out blackmail or insanity

[PaulTheVillan]

Thanks for that Dave, but:

1. I am a ST holder
2. I have not received the E-Mail
3. I have a registered E-Mail address with them that I get plenty of communications sent to
4. I have never unsubscribed

Same as me.

Might be doing a batch at a time. Lerner has probably scaled down the hardware on the mail relay server

[villan1975]

If big brother is watching the message boards,does that mean that they have been watching for
a while or just to gauge response to the e mail?
If so I wonder do they know about the "protest",and with the timing are they linked?
Not a season ticket holder though appreciated the sentiment and does seem genuine.
As others have said though the proof of the pudding is in the eating and we should be higher in
the table and playing better football with the players we have.As OMVF stated it is only fair to wait for the end of the season to judge.

[dave.woodhall]

If big brother is watching the message boards,does that mean that they have been watching for
a while or just to gauge response to the e mail?
If so I wonder do they know about the "protest",and with the timing are they linked?
Not a season ticket holder though appreciated the sentiment and does seem genuine.
As others have said though the proof of the pudding is in the eating and we should be higher in
the table and playing better football with the players we have.As OMVF stated it is only fair to wait for the end of the season to judge.
to judge.

They've been watching the message boards since the day they arrived and if they're taking one iota of notice of that protest they're a lot dafter than I give them credit for.