Given or Guzan?

[PeterWithe]

Anyone seen the article from Kevin Kilbane saying we should have Given back in. Scary when players have their mates writing stories about how brilliant they are. Shay must know how MON feels....

I've just read that, appalling column without any justification for the thrust of the article other than that he shouts a lot. Really poor.

[nigel]

Anyone seen the article from Kevin Kilbane saying we should have Given back in. Scary when players have their mates writing stories about how brilliant they are. Shay must know how MON feels....


Anyhow, it is interesting in that in our player of the half season, the general opinion is that Guzan wins it at a canter almost, yet the press still print stuff about Given being the better keeper.

Just to add though, I did think Guzan should have done better with the first 2 at the weekend.

Not sure about the first, but with the 2nd I'm not sure whether he thought the ball would carry through to him.
Bit of a nightmare scenario: Do I take a chance and try to get there first and look a complete idiot if I don't, or risk staying where I am, maybe give myself a bit of a chance and still look an idiot if they score?
Hindsight says he should have gone.

[saunders_heroes]

Doesn't matter who is in goal for us. Givan would make just as many saves as Guzan, if not more. The problem lies in the outfield positions. Starting with the defence - it's absolutely appalling.

[eastie]

Doesn't matter who is in goal for us. Givan would make just as many saves as Guzan, if not more. The problem lies in the outfield positions. Starting with the defence - it's absolutely appalling.

The defence are left too exposed by the midfield, sort out the midfield and they will not only provide better protection but also create more for the forwards.

Midfield area is the biggest problem.

[saunders_heroes]

Doesn't matter who is in goal for us. Givan would make just as many saves as Guzan, if not more. The problem lies in the outfield positions. Starting with the defence - it's absolutely appalling.

The defence are left too exposed by the midfield, sort out the midfield and they will not only provide better protection but also create more for the forwards.

Midfield area is the biggest problem.

True, but the defence is absolutely appalling. Spurs had 15 corners first half Boxing Day, and they got to the ball first in practically every one of them. How we weren't 4 or 5 nil down by half time was a miracle. Clark let his man get in front of him constantly. It was really amateurish.

[Dave]

Doesn't matter who is in goal for us. Givan would make just as many saves as Guzan, if not more.

And would catch about one quarter as many crosses.

[saunders_heroes]

Doesn't matter who is in goal for us. Givan would make just as many saves as Guzan, if not more.

And would catch about one quarter as many crosses.

Yeah right.

[ozzjim]

No you are right Saunders, he would catch nowhere near a quarter. Maybe a 16th or so. Leaves his line and gets a hernia.

[saunders_heroes]

No you are right Saunders, he would catch nowhere near a quarter. Maybe a 16th or so. Leaves his line and gets a hernia.

"Hilarious".

[ozzjim]

No you are right Saunders, he would catch nowhere near a quarter. Maybe a 16th or so. Leaves his line and gets a hernia.

"Hilarious".

Indeed, your posts often make me chuckle.

[saunders_heroes]

No you are right Saunders, he would catch nowhere near a quarter. Maybe a 16th or so. Leaves his line and gets a hernia.

"Hilarious".

Indeed, your posts often make me chuckle.

And yours make me chuck.

Time to grow up now and get down the Villa. Cheerio!

[SoccerHQ]

Camera panned in on him after the second goal so not sure what part of it was his fault, the shot from Boyce was in the bottom corner. Maybe could've come for the first goal but looked like he was blocked off.

I don't see the solution of bring Given back in for league games as he won't suddenly start keeping us clean sheets as he conceded two each at Swindon and Norwich.

We need better in the back 4, Clark is awful without an aerially dominated defender alongside him as positionally he dosen't have a clue, Bennett just looks another Warnock to me and Lowton's having a poor spell atm so it would be nice to have a more experienced RB who could come in.

Whatever happened to Luke Young at QPR, I'd take him back on a short term deal till the end of the season, either at RB or LB.

[Phil from the upper holte]

If the steward who works the lower tier of the trinity comes on here, the one who said Guzan should be dropped on the basis he's let 12 goals in against chelsea & Spuds, you mate are a twat

[frank black]

Tell you what though. As a keeper on the bench, you would be gutted if you didn't  start the next game. Time to give Guzan a break, it's a bugger bending over picking up the ball from the back of the net that many times...

[Somniloquism]

Tell you what though. As a keeper on the bench, you would be gutted if you didn't  start the next game. Time to give Guzan a break, it's a bugger bending over picking up the ball from the back of the net that many times...

My thought exactly, while he hasn't been totally at fault for the majority, his confidence must be as shot as the rest.