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Author Topic: Given or Guzan?  (Read 28541 times)

Online eamonn

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2012, 12:04:55 AM »
Three years ago Dave, where is the time going eh?

I'd stick with Shay for the semi-finals. He's done fine in the competition up to now. After being dropped earlier in the season it would probably be morale-crushing for him to be ditched now just because we're entering the business end. Not that Lambert will ever or should pick teams on sentiment. But it's good to make everyone feel involved and for the goalkeepers to be pushing each other. Guzan shouldn't think he's automatically number one.
So Given for these games and then we can worry about the final should we win.

Offline danno

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2012, 12:12:29 AM »
Lets not forget there's a cup game against Ipswich coming up.
That gives us all another chance to take a look at Given.

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2012, 12:14:46 AM »
Three years ago Dave, where is the time going eh?
I don't consider the McLeish year to be an actual season of football.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2012, 01:26:45 AM »
I hope Given goes in Jan on loan for a month and forces us to pick Brad!!

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #94 on: December 21, 2012, 01:28:09 AM »
I hope Given goes in Jan on loan for a month and forces us to pick Brad!!

I agree. I don't want any noble sense of loyalty from giving ourselves the best possible chance in any hypothetical final. Guzan has to play.

Offline ciggiesnbeer

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2012, 01:51:52 AM »
For me loyalty goes a long way. Shay got us this far in the cup, he should be stuck with. Guzan in the league.

Offline Doorbell

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #96 on: December 21, 2012, 02:56:57 AM »
Guzan gets my vote...

Offline villanic

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2012, 04:05:31 AM »
Guzan for me without question. I didn't rate when he first arrived  but he has become a very good keeper (think the loan spell at hull really helped him) and i think he can get better. Distribution can be poor at times but his still young for a keeper and can improve.

I've always liked Given and there's not many keepers better when it comes to instinctive saves but his all round performance has diminished over the last few seasons for us and when he was playing for Ireland.

I don't think we got the best of Given (like when he was at Newcastle) and I think the way he was treated at Man City affected him.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2012, 09:20:16 AM »
It would be very harsh on Guzan to miss another final. He gets us to the final in 2010 as reserve/cup keeper and gets dropped for the final. He's the number one keeper in 2013 and the reserve/cup keeper keeps the shirt for the final. I'd be massively pissed if it happened and I was him.

Offline eastie

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2012, 09:28:38 AM »
It would be very harsh on Guzan to miss another final. He gets us to the final in 2010 as reserve/cup keeper and gets dropped for the final. He's the number one keeper in 2013 and the reserve/cup keeper keeps the shirt for the final. I'd be massively pissed if it happened and I was him.

Although he may understand having had it happen to him and feel its fair enough if lambert stuck with given, I think mon maybe ditched Guzan for the fact he was poor against Blackburn and wonder if he had had a blinder against rovers if he would have perhaps kept his place?

It's a difficult call but I'd be happy with either in all honesty, although if given is as poor against bradford as Guzan was against rovers then I think the writing would be on the wall.
« Last Edit: December 21, 2012, 09:30:36 AM by eastie »

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #100 on: December 21, 2012, 09:32:38 AM »
Given was poor against Norwich, but they let him off the hook.

Lets not make the same mistake again.

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #101 on: December 21, 2012, 09:36:56 AM »
Given was poor against Norwich, but they let him off the hook.

Lets not make the same mistake again.

I think it's a given that given will play against bradford , neither Chelsea or Swansea will bombard us with crosses so its a  real tough call, I do agree shay was very shaky at Norwich and looked a shadow of his former self.

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #102 on: December 21, 2012, 10:13:37 AM »
Guzan is a given :o He will probably hit a bad patch again sometime but up to now he seems to be getting better and better.

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #103 on: December 21, 2012, 10:27:33 AM »
Its a tough one . I think Given will be in the semis , def the first one , If he is shakin stevens then Guzan will get second leg but I would imagine given gets both . 

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Given or Guzan?
« Reply #104 on: December 21, 2012, 10:31:50 AM »
I think Given will leave in Jan, Problem solved

 


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