England 2012 Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Shockingly sloppy display, 10 wides.

[Dave Cooper please]

Meh, so we lost the baseball with our Second XI.

Won the proper cricket, that's all that matters.

[PaulWinch again]

Horrendous bowling from Dernbach and Meaker.

[PaulWinch again]

Bresnan is nowhere near the player he used to be.

[PaulWinch again]

As Bumble says, 'Get under that'.

[paul_e]

As a full on test purist it's not easy for me to type this but that match shows exactly why t20 was needed to really push the sport forward, excellent match where neither side ever looked like the winner, big kudos to Morgan for going big on the last ball as well.

[PaulWinch again]

That was a great game to watch. I'm a huge Test purist, but Twenty20 has its role in the game too.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Is it just me who finds that having 2 games of 20/20 is odd?

It's now ended up 1-1 with no clear winner.

[Dave Cooper please]

Is it just me who finds that having 2 games of 20/20 is odd?

It's now ended up 1-1 with no clear winner.

Pure money spinning contractual obligations. There had to be some baseball because the Indians love it.
Pointless really but good to see some of our second XI getting a run out.

[PaulWinch again]

In fairness Dave it's quite clear you are not a fan of Twenty20, and I understand that. But there are talented players who develop from it like Morgan. I'm sure if he gets another chance in the Test side he's learnt from his mistakes and will impress.

[Dave Cooper please]

But Morgan got found out at Test level and i doubt he'll ever really cement a Test place. I admire his talent, some of his shots are remarkable, same with the likes of Luke Wright and possibly Hales, they have found their role in the International scene as T20 players. Good on them but they will never be Test players, it's a whole different game.

I actually like Twenty20, it's fun, but it's a bit like comparing a game of Futsal to proper football, it's the same game in principle but it's not the real thing.

[paul_e]

But Morgan got found out at Test level and i doubt he'll ever really cement a Test place. I admire his talent, some of his shots are remarkable, same with the likes of Luke Wright and possibly Hales, they have found their role in the International scene as T20 players. Good on them but they will never be Test players, it's a whole different game.

I actually like Twenty20, it's fun, but it's a bit like comparing a game of Futsal to proper football, it's the same game in principle but it's not the real thing.

I disagree.  I think Morgan will get himself a place in the test side, it's just that he came in at a time when the batting line up wasn't really functioning.  I also think elements of t20 will make their way into test cricket (like the KP switch-hit and the dil-scoop already have to an extent).  expanding the range of shots test players are comfortable with present a lot of new tactical challenges which will be interesting.

[Dave Cooper please]

I suppose you're allowed to disagree with me!
Nah, I just don't think Morgan will ever learn the patience needed to build Test innings, Prior and Swann can do the crash, bang, wallop stuff in the middle order if needed and they also contribute in other ways.

[olaftab]

Is it just me who finds that having 2 games of 20/20 is odd?

It's now ended up 1-1 with no clear winner.

Cricket has lived with concept of no clear winner for a very long time now!

[PaulWinch again]

KP rested for one days in New Zealand as well. I don't mind that, it's the Tests that are key.