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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1425 on: September 05, 2012, 04:18:48 PM »
I've never understood why the selectors keep bringing Bopara back

He's been possibly our best bowler in the last couple of matches.

That's probably true, but he can't bat at 3 or 4 playing like he is.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1426 on: September 05, 2012, 04:19:16 PM »
Good luck Woakesy, you're going to need about 70 or 80.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1427 on: September 05, 2012, 04:24:12 PM »
Thing that concerns me is people mentioning Patel for number 6 in India. I just don't see it, he's not a good enough bat and he's not a good enough bowler. He's a bits and pieces cricketer, and maybe useful in Twenty20 but that's about it.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1428 on: September 05, 2012, 07:29:52 PM »
Woakes did well but overall a piss poor batting display.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1429 on: September 05, 2012, 08:13:21 PM »
I think this performance sums up our year overall, sloppy and very poor.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1430 on: September 07, 2012, 08:35:23 PM »
KP not awarded a 2012/2013 central contract.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/581361.html

Whilst they can award a contract at any time it does look like Cook has decided not to include him. Reports last weekend suggested that Flower & Pietersen were due to meet to resolve the matter. Assuming they did meet then clearly things haven't been sorted out. I think we've seen the last of KP in an England team.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1431 on: September 08, 2012, 02:11:02 PM »
I think it's still ongoing with KP. I think the interesting one is Morgan, that suggests they're looking at him for Tests again.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1432 on: September 08, 2012, 02:21:03 PM »
Its beyond me how Bopara gets a game ahead of Luke Wright

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1433 on: September 08, 2012, 08:48:59 PM »
Dreadful performance. I have nothing against Bopara, but he is nowhere near good enough at the moment and playing him is doing England and him no favours. That said other than Kies the batting was piss poor today in general.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1434 on: September 09, 2012, 07:53:35 AM »
Taken from Crickinfo...........

Kevin Pietersen has pressed England to carry out a serious investigation into his suspicion that his England team mates Graeme Swann and James Anderson were feeding information to the parody Twitter account - KP Genius - in a prolonged stalemate that continues to dog attempts to reintegrate him into the England team.
 
Pietersen has made an England investigation a central part of any rapprochement with England. Initial meetings with the England coach, Andy Flower, a week ago failed to find immediate common ground for a resumption of his international career.
 
Selectors are due to announce in the next few days the Test squad to tour India. He was also not named in England's list of central contracts for 2012 although it was indicated that other names could be added.
 
The account, which suggested Pietersen was vainglorious and obsessed by money, was followed by several members of the team and, at times, even elicited a good-humoured response from Pietersen before his attitude abruptly changed as his relationships with the ECB and his England team mates deteriorated.
 
Richard Bailey, a cricket lover who shares a house with a couple of members of the Nottinghamshire team and is a friend of England's T20 captain Stuart Broad, had admitted he was behind the account and insists no-one else was involved.
 
Broad has denied any involvement or knowledge of the account and it has subsequently been discontinued. An ESPNcricinfo investigation also exonerated Broad and suggested that Bailey was the only person responsible.
 
But Pietersen remains convinced that other England players were involved - and he has made his feelings clear. If he is to reach what he views as a fair compromise with his reputation intact and with an admission of faults on both sides then it seems that he is not prepared to let this matter rest. Whether a dressing room could knit together again after such a lengthy dispute is questionable.
 
Specifically he feels that the contents of private conversations between him, Anderson and Swann were referenced in various tweets. As a consequence, Pietersen feels he has been the victim of double standards after being disciplined for sending private messages to members of the South Africa touring party that contained derogatory comments about recently retired England Test captain Andrew Strauss.
 
ESPNcricinfo is not aware that Pietersen has provided definite proof that either Swann or Anderson were directly involved.
 
The episode is a headache that will not go away for Flower. Coming days before England depart for Sri Lanka in an attempt to defend their World T20 title and days before they name their Test squad for the tour of India, it is a distraction that he and the players could well do without. If Pietersen has hard evidence to support his views - and it is hard to see how he does - then the results could be devastating.
 
With both sides apparently too entrenched in their views to accept an amnesty, it is also hard to see a happy ending to a saga that continues to damage the individuals and the England team.
 

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1435 on: September 09, 2012, 12:17:38 PM »
Well it seems unlikely that there will be any compromise based on that. However I still think that Anderson and Swann shouldn't have been involved with this.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1436 on: September 10, 2012, 09:15:16 PM »
This is the best two overs I've seen Swann bowl in a while and what a catch.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1437 on: September 10, 2012, 09:25:32 PM »
Shocking over Broad.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1438 on: September 10, 2012, 09:28:40 PM »
Shouldn't be in the team never mind being bloody captain.

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Re: England 2012 Cricket Thread
« Reply #1439 on: September 10, 2012, 09:46:53 PM »
Kies had a bit of a mare there.

 


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