England 2012 Cricket Thread

[paul_e]

looks like we're settling for the draw now, quite disappointed that the plan of attack was KP and nothing else.

[paul_e]

Prior in before Bell... is it just me or is this turning into a cock-swinging contest between Strauss and Smith?

[PaulWinch again]

Well they gave it a go, at least we finally started getting through the South Africa line up and Broad found some form. It's a shame it's just a 3 match series, we have to massively gamble in the next Test.

[PaulWinch again]

Oh and up our collective level a lot.

[hilts_coolerking]

Finn and Bresnan both underwhelming.  I'd say there's a case for Chris Woakes being given a go.

[PaulWinch again]

Finn deserves more than one Test. He should be in for Bresnan in the next Test, Woakes isn't ready to be a Test bowler yet. KP can't guarantee the next Test won't be his last, that'd be really bad.

[spangley1812]

Finn deserves more than one Test. He should be in for Bresnan in the next Test, Woakes isn't ready to be a Test bowler yet. KP can't guarantee the next Test won't be his last, that'd be really bad.

Thats down to KP at the end of the day he either commits himself to England or to the IPL,etc

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah true, but it'd be a big loss. He showed in this game that he is vital to England, noone else could have done what he did.

[spangley1812]

Yeah true, but it'd be a big loss. He showed in this game that he is vital to England, noone else could have done what he did.

He would be a huge loss Paul but I cant see Flower/the ECB let him sign a "test match/T20" contract can you ?

[PaulWinch again]

Nope I can't. Personally I'd like a bit of give from both sides. What England should say is, look Kevin we can't have you retiring from ODIs but we'll give you series off like we do the bowlers.

[hilts_coolerking]

Regardless of who deserves what, England have to pick the eleven players they think will give them the best possible chance of winning that final Test.  That surely means Swann coming back into the side - for either Finn or Bresnan - and possibly James Taylor missing out so we can play an extra bowler.

[PaulWinch again]

I agree, but I think Finn should be opening the bowling and has shown plenty of form this summer. Finn should stay in and Bresnan drop out for Swann.

[spangley1812]

I agree, but I think Finn should be opening the bowling and has shown plenty of form this summer. Finn should stay in and Bresnan drop out for Swann.

Thats what I would do as well............

[spangley1812]

Nope I can't. Personally I'd like a bit of give from both sides. What England should say is, look Kevin we can't have you retiring from ODIs but we'll give you series off like we do the bowlers.

I would give him a series of ODI's off yes but I wouldnt give him the test match series off v New Zealand so that he can play a full IPL season........

[PaulWinch again]

Finn is also our only legitimately fast bowler and that offers another dimension. I'm fed up with him being brought in for a Test and then left out, give him a proper go. If Michael Holding would have him in his team every game that's good enough for me.