England 2012 Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

We always talk of the batting potential of Bresnan and Broad, but in reality they frequently get fuck all. Broad also played really poorly there, they should be playing for Prior.

[Chris Smith]

The draw is most likely but I'm struggling to see how we can win it from here and I could see them leaving themselves a couple of sessions tomorrow to try to skittle us out

[PaulWinch again]

Damn Prior gone, but well played. Innings are going to be level.

[PaulWinch again]

Tail didn't exactly wag, but up to the bowlers to actually turn up now.

[Rip Van We Go Again]

Is Smith crocked?
His ankle looked dodgy towards the end of yesterday.

Horrible bastard of a bloke, kept calling Vaughan a 'queer' when they faced each other a few years ago.

[spangley1812]

Is Smith crocked?
His ankle looked dodgy towards the end of yesterday.

Horrible bastard of a bloke, kept calling Vaughan a 'queer' when they faced each other a few years ago.

He is carrying a bit of an injury but due to new rules he cant have a runner,,,,,,,,,,,

[Dave Cooper please]

We always talk of the batting potential of Bresnan and Broad, but in reality they frequently get fuck all. Broad also played really poorly there, they should be playing for Prior.

But they aren't really there to bat, and both have got Test Match centuries to their name.
If we are six or seven wickets down and a bowler plays a poor shot we shouldn't be having a go at them, instead we should wonder why those up the order didn't get runs.
Any runs below Prior are a bonus, nothing more.

[spangley1812]

We always talk of the batting potential of Bresnan and Broad, but in reality they frequently get fuck all. Broad also played really poorly there, they should be playing for Prior.

But they aren't really there to bat, and both have got Test Match centuries to their name.
If we are six or seven wickets down and a bowler plays a poor shot we shouldn't be having a go at them, instead we should wonder why those up the order didn't get runs.
Any runs below Prior are a bonus, nothing more.

That would be fine but Bresnan keeps getting picked for his "useful" lower order runs that he isnt contributing, Finn and Onions are far better bowlers

[PaulWinch again]

We always talk of the batting potential of Bresnan and Broad, but in reality they frequently get fuck all. Broad also played really poorly there, they should be playing for Prior.

But they aren't really there to bat, and both have got Test Match centuries to their name.
If we are six or seven wickets down and a bowler plays a poor shot we shouldn't be having a go at them, instead we should wonder why those up the order didn't get runs.
Any runs below Prior are a bonus, nothing more.

Well I'd say that batting is the only reason that Bresnan gets in front of Finn, so if we're not expecting anything from him then I'd pick Finn every time.

[Dave Cooper please]

I agree with that, we need to pick the best bowlers and not worry about the runs. Finn is better than Bresnan.
The one thing we really miss is a proper all-rounder and have done since Flintoff retired.

[paul_e]

bresnan has failed today but his batting record across his test career is fantastic for an 8, ditto broad for a 9/10 and swann for a 8/9.  Between them they average over a hundred, which is huge when they're picked as specialist bowlers.

As said before Bresnan need to become more consistent.  If he can get that right and come in and regualrly get important runs and support the top order guy with him (i.e. do the job Taylor did) he'd be ideal as a 6, allowing 4 specialist bowlers and giving us a meaningful 5th option.

[PaulWinch again]

bresnan has failed today but his batting record across his test career is fantastic for an 8, ditto broad for a 9/10 and swann for a 8/9.  Between them they average over a hundred, which is huge when they're picked as specialist bowlers.

As said before Bresnan need to become more consistent.  If he can get that right and come in and regualrly get important runs and support the top order guy with him (i.e. do the job Taylor did) he'd be ideal as a 6, allowing 4 specialist bowlers and giving us a meaningful 5th option.

That would be nice in theory, but Bresnan will never ever be a Test class 6 or 7.

[spangley1812]

bresnan has failed today but his batting record across his test career is fantastic for an 8, ditto broad for a 9/10 and swann for a 8/9.  Between them they average over a hundred, which is huge when they're picked as specialist bowlers.

As said before Bresnan need to become more consistent.  If he can get that right and come in and regualrly get important runs and support the top order guy with him (i.e. do the job Taylor did) he'd be ideal as a 6, allowing 4 specialist bowlers and giving us a meaningful 5th option.

and as I said he isnt being picked as a specialist bowler

[PaulWinch again]

We don't look particularly threatening again.

[PaulWinch again]

Get Finn on, Broad is not performing.