England 2012 Cricket Thread

[TopDeck113]

Appalling. Simply appalling.   

[OzVilla]

Morgan can go because he's never really scored runs and never looks like he will.

You can only drop KP if there is someone better knocking down the door.  KP is a class batsman when on song, he scores quickly and opposition teams fear him.  He stays for now.

He cant play spin though mate...........

But away from the subcontinent, he won't have to.   I don't think he'll never get runs out there I accept that.  But he also won't see those wickets or bowlers in SA or Aus. That's the deal with him.

[OzVilla]

I'm also not sure Australia would beat us at all, on a fast bowlers wicket I fancy us. However this as I've set before has been an utter disgrace and our arrogance has done for us.

I agree there top 3 is very poor we would still beat them

May I suggest you take another look at Australia.  Watson is still to come back and Warner looks like he can cut it at Test level.  It's nowhere near the side that we played last year.

[PaulWinch again]

I still think we'd beat them on a pacers pitch. We don't have problems against that really, it's quality spin that kills us. Australia don't have that.

[OzVilla]

It will be interesting to see what excuses Flower/Strauss come up with this time

Strauss went into complete PR mode with Athers so i'm not expecting anything more from Flower.  Probably not their style to discuss team flaws in public after a defeat.  Shame as a bit of honesty about how the team played might be quite liberating after that.

[spangley1812]

I'm also not sure Australia would beat us at all, on a fast bowlers wicket I fancy us. However this as I've set before has been an utter disgrace and our arrogance has done for us.

I agree there top 3 is very poor we would still beat them

May I suggest you take another look at Australia.  Watson is still to come back and Warner looks like he can cut it at Test level.  It's nowhere near the side that we played last year.

I will give u Watson but Warner........not in a million years mate and as for Shaun Marsh the top 3 have made 80 between them in six innings against the worse Indian attack in the past 20 years in this last test 

[OzVilla]

I still think we'd beat them on a pacers pitch. We don't have problems against that really, it's quality spin that kills us. Australia don't have that.

Any team has problems against the moving ball at 140 kph.  Australia has 4 that are doing it.  Sewag said this week it's the best attack he's ever faced with a 19 year old who took 10 wickets on debut bowling at 145 kph still to come back.

[PaulWinch again]

I've been impressed by them, but like I said I fancy us against anyone in conditions that suit us.

[OzVilla]

I'm also not sure Australia would beat us at all, on a fast bowlers wicket I fancy us. However this as I've set before has been an utter disgrace and our arrogance has done for us.

I agree there top 3 is very poor we would still beat them

May I suggest you take another look at Australia.  Watson is still to come back and Warner looks like he can cut it at Test level.  It's nowhere near the side that we played last year.

I will give u Watson but Warner........not in a million years mate and as for Shaun Marsh the top 3 have made 80 between them in six innings against the worse Indian attack in the past 20 years in this last test 

Warner has scored 2 centuries in his first 4 Tests - one attacking and when where he carried his bat and played a wachful knock on a tough pitch.  I think he'll do well for them.  Marsh is gone though I agree for Watson.  He has the lowest average of any batsman in a series for 4 Tests or more in Cricket history - 2.88.

[PaulWinch again]

All I'll say for Bopara replacing Morgan is can he possibly do any worse? No. Morgan looks totally lost.

[PaulWinch again]

Also if you sit in against quality spin like England have, you will get out sooner or later no doubt. We have to play positively, there is no other option.

[spangley1812]

All I'll say for Bopara replacing Morgan is can he possibly do any worse? No. Morgan looks totally lost.

That is the only batting replacement that they have so I cant see any other changes

[LionVilla]

Well that was a disgrace however this thread like all of our Cricket establishment is absolutley  obsessed with Australia. We will never become truley best in the world unless we think futher than end of our nose. Cricket is played on the sub-continent  and we need to go and win there not start worrying about *uckin Australia.

[Chris Smith]

The series is lost, there's an argument for giving everyone in the squad who hasn't yet featured a run out in the next one.

[spangley1812]

The series is lost, there's an argument for giving everyone in the squad who hasn't yet featured a run out in the next one.

I would agree Broad/Anderson have been excellent tell them to put their feet up and bring in Finn/Onions