Darren Bent

[tarzansbrother]

Hasn't Bent got the same agent as Downing? I also heard he has a buy out clause in his contract similar to the one we took advantage of when we bought him.

[TonyD]

He doesnt seem to be enjoying it this season.  Cant blame him nobody really is.  Going shopping was a big no no in my books.  You would expect him to be at the ground as a bare min.  I think he will go.  Hope not but there you have it.

[pauliewalnuts]

Hasn't Bent got the same agent as Downing? I also heard he has a buy out clause in his contract similar to the one we took advantage of when we bought him.

When we bought Bent?

What buy out clause was that? It can't have been a very beneficial one for us considering what we paid for him.

[pauliewalnuts]

Rumours of 18 and Carrol on loan for 6 months. 25 and they might strike a deal, although I would want the loan to be 18 months!

Why on earth would we take what we paid for him (since when he has established himself in the England side) plus them letting us borrow their misfiring striker?

[Jimmy Smash]

Rumours of 18 and Carrol on loan for 6 months. 25 and they might strike a deal, although I would want the loan to be 18 months!

Why on earth would we take what we paid for him (since when he has established himself in the England side) plus them letting us borrow their misfiring striker?

Because Randy wants his money back?

[pauliewalnuts]

Rumours of 18 and Carrol on loan for 6 months. 25 and they might strike a deal, although I would want the loan to be 18 months!

Why on earth would we take what we paid for him (since when he has established himself in the England side) plus them letting us borrow their misfiring striker?

Because Randy wants his money back?

And if he wants some money that much, why would he settle for what we paid for him when he's obviously added value since then?

[ROBBO]

Watching Carrol against City i kept thinking of Tony Hately. He really is lost in that Liverpool side, doesn't seem to know where to run to and he is slow, but after saying all that if he got a hair cut he could be a very good player if the team played to his strengths. Just like bent i suppose who has great positioning, reads the game brilliantly but is playing in a team that lacks the skill to play to his strengths. Bent wouldn't have joined us if he knew that we were selling the two players that could set him up anf if he wanted to go i wouldn't blame him.

[pauliewalnuts]

Watching Carrol against City i kept thinking of Tony Hately. He really is lost in that Liverpool side, doesn't seem to know where to run to and he is slow, but after saying all that if he got a hair cut he could be a very good player if the team played to his strengths. Just like bent i suppose who has great positioning, reads the game brilliantly but is playing in a team that lacks the skill to play to his strengths. Bent wouldn't have joined us if he knew that we were selling the two players that could set him up anf if he wanted to go i wouldn't blame him.

The reason Carroll is lost at Liverpool is because he needs players knocking in crosses for him from out wide, like he had at Newcastle (barton would often do that). At Liverpool he isn't getting that.

Why anyone thinks we'd do well to replace a striker who is being criticised because he's not getting the service he did last season (balls knocked in from out wide) with another one who can't do a fucking thing without the same kind of service is beyond me.

And that's before you factor in the propensity for him to get shitfaced and into fights all the time.

[OzVilla]

I think Bent may still have come to escape the North East and double his wages but it became a short term move once we sold Downing and Young.  First decent offer and i'll expect he'll be gone, RL will take to money and DB will only be too happy to move.

Decent offer for RL will be 22 mill+.

[pauliewalnuts]

For me, the weakest link is the chairman.

He's looking like his only remaining interest in the club is clawing back money, and I don't doubt that he'll take the opportunity if it presents itself.

[OzVilla]

I agree Paulie, since the Summer i've come to the realisation that we'll only move on when he sells up.

We moved into the 'recoup our costs' mode about the same time as the General disappeared.

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree Paulie, since the Summer i've come to the realisation that we'll only move on when he sells up.

We moved into the 'recoup our costs' mode about the same time as the General disappeared.

The timing was no coincidence.

[Risso]

Rumours of 18 and Carrol on loan for 6 months. 25 and they might strike a deal, although I would want the loan to be 18 months!

Why on earth would we take what we paid for him (since when he has established himself in the England side) plus them letting us borrow their misfiring striker?

Because Randy wants his money back?

And if he wants some money that much, why would he settle for what we paid for him when he's obviously added value since then?

He hasn't added any value though, not really.  Any small benefits like a better training ground is more than offset by the loans which have mostly been pissed away.  The net asset value of the club is less now than when Ellis left I'm afraid.  The piss poor state of things financially cannot be overstated.

[pauliewalnuts]

Value added to Darren Bent.

[Risso]

Just reread Paulie's post and seen that he was talking about Bent and not the club as a whole.