Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Supreme "trolling" Darren, but I "think" it should be put to bed now.

[supertommykN'iba]

Has it not yet occurred to you dazzyg, that we are in a higher position that this time last season. (12th compared to 14th).

We have played less games (23 compared to 25).

We have the same amount of points (28).

We have a better goal difference (-3 compared to -15).

We have lost less games (7 compared to 11).

We are further from the Relegation Zone (10 points compared to 4).

We have scored the same amount of goals (28).

McLeish has changed Stephen Ireland into a Footballer, yet still has to work without players who were pretty good for us last season. He has had to replace Friedel, Young (A + L), Downing & Reo-Coker on a budget that no man should have to work with.

It absolutely must be his former employers that you are so against. We do only tend to play for 60/70 minutes a game but I'm perfectly happy to put my trust in AMc to make sure they start playing for the 90 and it's looking better and better as the players click more and more.

There are obviously some negatives, everyone can see that, but I still can't see a reason why you refuse to give the man a chance. Your 7 man protests aren't going to get rid of him, so just get behind the team, maybe watch a little closer and see that we are playing very good Football at times.

[Dave Clark Five]

What time is dazzyg's broadcast scheduled for?

So where does DMF sit then at the ground? Did he hear any chants what are his opinions of the feeling of the fans.

Good morning dazzyg. I bet you enjoyed the first half last night. Where I sit is of no concern to you. The reason I asked where you sit was just to establish why you spent so much for your seat. If you paid in instalments it may well have cost what you said. Subject closed.
I did not hear any chants against McLeish but obviously heard the booing after Warnock's own goal and at half time. The booing was quite muted at the end as it had been a good half.
 

[Ger Regan]

Has it not yet occurred to you dazzyg, that we are in a higher position that this time last season. (12th compared to 14th).

We have played less games (23 compared to 25).

We have the same amount of points (28).

We have a better goal difference (-3 compared to -15).

We have lost less games (7 compared to 11).

We are further from the Relegation Zone (10 points compared to 4).

We have scored the same amount of goals (28).

McLeish has changed Stephen Ireland into a Footballer, yet still has to work without players who were pretty good for us last season. He has had to replace Friedel, Young (A + L), Downing & Reo-Coker on a budget that no man should have to work with.

It absolutely must be his former employers that you are so against. We do only tend to play for 60/70 minutes a game but I'm perfectly happy to put my trust in AMc to make sure they start playing for the 90 and it's looking better and better as the players click more and more.

There are obviously some negatives, everyone can see that, but I still can't see a reason why you refuse to give the man a chance. Your 7 man protests aren't going to get rid of him, so just get behind the team, maybe watch a little closer and see that we are playing very good Football at times.

I wouldn't bother bringing reason and logic into this argument to be honest. He's a lost cause, a mouth-breather of the highest (lowest?) order.

[dr.chekov]

Well hopefully the last few games can put to bed the myth that McLeish plays boring football. Harum-scarum football maybe, boring football no.

[villajk]

I don't believe there are too many who think he's the right man for the job, but he's here to stay in difficult circumstances and they are giving him their support whilst he's here. I respect that even if I'm personally more of the opinion that we are more in need of someone who could have a galvanising effect on the club and more importantly the fans.

Mattjpa - Well said this is what I have been going on about for months now some "fans" and I use that term loosely dont actually go to the game so they just jump on board with other "fans" opinions weak as they may be. 

I do agree on one point though, you see a lot more of the 'give him a go' fans on here than you seem to come across at the match.

I agree but its alot easier to be of that opinion when you are sitting infornt of a computer-its alot of time and money to go to a game and watch your team get battered. I was in the north lower with some work colleages and one made a comment on how he had never been to a ground with such a lack of atmosphere (in the first half). Again, my apathy for the current situation stopped me really caring (in the sense that i laughed rather than went mad at the second goal). I didnt think we would get back into the game but it still didnt mean that much for some reason (maybe because im so used to seeing us f~~~ it up at the end anyway). AM may not be the right man for the job but I honestly dont think anything will change him being the manager. I dont even think he would get the chop if he took us down. So im in the give him a go camp too

Well said mattjpa - some "fans" on here obviously do not even go to the match they just hide behind the "moderators" I am not saying that "moderators" don't go just before they start throwing their toys out of the pram.

And which particular 'fans' on here are you referring to?

[eastie]

much better football since ireland and keane have been in the team and clark complements petrov as did herd ,  however alex must make changes defensively and then hopefully results will come.

[dave.woodhall]

I don't believe there are too many who think he's the right man for the job, but he's here to stay in difficult circumstances and they are giving him their support whilst he's here. I respect that even if I'm personally more of the opinion that we are more in need of someone who could have a galvanising effect on the club and more importantly the fans.

I do agree on one point though, you see a lot more of the 'give him a go' fans on here than you seem to come across at the match.

I'd disagree with that. I speak to more supporters on matchday than most and the majority are of the give him a chance opinion. And dazzy, if you want to bitch about everyone who disagrees with you, this is not the place. Patience is starting to wear thin.

[Brend'Watkins]

The 2nd half was the best performance we have shown this season.  No hoofing and plenty of accurate passing. Keane was instrumental in that so credit must go to AM for getting him in. 

[eastie]

I don't believe there are too many who think he's the right man for the job, but he's here to stay in difficult circumstances and they are giving him their support whilst he's here. I respect that even if I'm personally more of the opinion that we are more in need of someone who could have a galvanising effect on the club and more importantly the fans.

I do agree on one point though, you see a lot more of the 'give him a go' fans on here than you seem to come across at the match.

I'd disagree with that. I speak to more supporters on matchday than most and the majority are of the give him a chance opinion. And dazzy, if you want to bitch about everyone who disagrees with you, this is not the place. Patience is starting to wear thin.

mcleish has his faults as did mon and ged but he has not been backed by randy in the way the others were- i think given the money to spend he would compare favourably to both.

[Concrete John]

Has it not yet occurred to you dazzyg, that we are in a higher position that this time last season. (12th compared to 14th).

We have played less games (23 compared to 25).

We have the same amount of points (28).

We have a better goal difference (-3 compared to -15).

We have lost less games (7 compared to 11).

We are further from the Relegation Zone (10 points compared to 4).

We have scored the same amount of goals (28).

McLeish has changed Stephen Ireland into a Footballer, yet still has to work without players who were pretty good for us last season. He has had to replace Friedel, Young (A + L), Downing & Reo-Coker on a budget that no man should have to work with.

It absolutely must be his former employers that you are so against. We do only tend to play for 60/70 minutes a game but I'm perfectly happy to put my trust in AMc to make sure they start playing for the 90 and it's looking better and better as the players click more and more.

There are obviously some negatives, everyone can see that, but I still can't see a reason why you refuse to give the man a chance. Your 7 man protests aren't going to get rid of him, so just get behind the team, maybe watch a little closer and see that we are playing very good Football at times.

 

I was thinking about something similar last night, with my conclusion being that for every negative there is a positive:-

We're crap at the back, but looking pretty useful going forward.

AM has signed a poor player in Hutton, but a good one in Given.

He's got the best out of Ireland, but Warnock has gone to shit.

Add it all up and it equals 'mid table' to me.  And when looking at the financial picture and where the club is trying to get to, then that's hardly surprising.

[Bottom Right 89]

Don't think I'm on my own to suggest Alex Mcleish has started to turn things round? in spells we are playing the best attacking football since early Mon, ok so defensively we need some surgery and a couple of new faces in the Summer but on the whole we're improving or is it just Robbie Keane magic papering over the cracks? 

[Ger Regan]

He's got the best out of Ireland, but Warnock has gone to shit.

Warnock had gone to shit a long time before AM arrived, to be fair.

[Concrete John]

He's got the best out of Ireland, but Warnock has gone to shit.

Warnock had gone to shit a long time before AM arrived, to be fair.

I never remember him being this bad.

[N'ZMAV]

Robbie Keane is papering over the cracks, but maybe they're cracks a fully fit and in form Ireland can fill.
McLeish has introduced Gardner & (a better than I thoguht he was) Herd into the team. Obviously, I think Gardner was always going to get a run, regardless of who the manager was, he's highly rated in our setup.
Given was a good signing, quite obvious, but nonetheless we still needed a GK.
Hutton and Warnock are my major concerns, they're just not good enough. And the main worry is there is no-one presently to push them for their place in the team. Ok, Herd could play right bak and Clark left back, but they're effective Centre Midfield players, therefore we'd probably be better keeping round pegs in round holes.... Maybe Nathan Baker could do a job at left back now he's back from Millwall?....