Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?

[taylorsworkrate]

If we were ever going to take a manager from Birmingham, I'm happy it was McLeish. He's always seemed to have respect for us, including after the 5-1.

"You have to say that Villa's agenda is totally different to ours - the bottom line is that they are a better team."

That seems like pretty flawed logic to me.

We shouldn't hire a manger because he seems to like us.

[taylorsworkrate]

Not sure if mentioned, but it seems since the Swansea game there has been a 'protest' organised. The organiser has spent £100 on spray paint for his bed sheet by the sounds of it.

Here's your link

Sorry for capitals but I quote... MARCH WILL START FROM ASTON HOTEL WITTON ISLAND AT 2PM WE WILL MARCH AROUND THE GROUND FINISHING OUTSIDE THE VILLA VILLAGE. PLEASE BRING BANNERS AND FLAGS AS WE EXPECT MEDIA.

So we're going to be an even bigger laughing stock in the media for a days after this then. Great!

By media I think he means his mates blog.

[MarkM]

I did not agree with the appointment of Mcliesh when it was announced, not because of where he came from but because of the style of play he is comfortable with.

But even considering that, if we had seen a marked inprovement during the first 20 games I would be more inclined to give him more time.

However in my view we are not getting better, we are just stagnating with a good performance hear and a shocker there. Our home form is dissmal and our forward play is at times unwatchable.

I don't pile all the blame onto him, RL and co have to share the blame for our current position and RL knew what he was getting when he hired him so in essence the blame should lie with RL rather than Mcliesh who is after all only playing a style that he knows.

[Chris Smith]

Rick, he was doing OK at Newcastle but Pardew is doing much, much better. He seems like a nice bloke (and of course Noses are going to make a big fuss, they're trying to wind you up), but I don't see much else to commend him.

Pardew is doing better as he signed some good players i.e. Ba and Cabaye.  Pardew wasn't doing that much better when he first took over.
My mate isn't even winding me up.  He's actually saying to me that Villa NEED to get rid of Eck now as it wont get any better.  Most blues fans would be laughing at us and not encouraging us to get rid and to hold on to him.

So it didn't get any better for them? They didn't get promoted, achieve their best ever PL finish and win the Carling Cup? Your mate must have the memory of a goldfish.

[LeeB]

Rick, he was doing OK at Newcastle but Pardew is doing much, much better. He seems like a nice bloke (and of course Noses are going to make a big fuss, they're trying to wind you up), but I don't see much else to commend him.

Pardew is doing better as he signed some good players i.e. Ba and Cabaye.  Pardew wasn't doing that much better when he first took over.
My mate isn't even winding me up.  He's actually saying to me that Villa NEED to get rid of Eck now as it wont get any better.  Most blues fans would be laughing at us and not encouraging us to get rid and to hold on to him.

So it didn't get any better for them? They didn't get promoted, achieve their best ever PL finish and win the Carling Cup? Your mate must have the memory of a goldfish.

I've heard loads of noses telling me how bad he'll be for us, how we need to sack him etc.

It's just fucking wishful thinking on there behalf. They're scared shitless he'll do a good job.

[Rick_avfc]

Rick, he was doing OK at Newcastle but Pardew is doing much, much better. He seems like a nice bloke (and of course Noses are going to make a big fuss, they're trying to wind you up), but I don't see much else to commend him.

Pardew is doing better as he signed some good players i.e. Ba and Cabaye.  Pardew wasn't doing that much better when he first took over.
My mate isn't even winding me up.  He's actually saying to me that Villa NEED to get rid of Eck now as it wont get any better.  Most blues fans would be laughing at us and not encouraging us to get rid and to hold on to him.

So it didn't get any better for them? They didn't get promoted, achieve their best ever PL finish and win the Carling Cup? Your mate must have the memory of a goldfish.

He is comparing the style of football under mcleish.  Yes he was chuffed about being promoted and winning cup who wouldn't be? but where he said Eck fucked up was after the Carling cup, he set up his team to avoid defeat: defensive 4-5-1 which clearly didnt work as they are back in the championship.  The fans had more belief in the team than Eck did meaning that they wanted to have "a go" at teams rather than sitting back and lumping the ball up top.  He says that under Houghton, they are getting the ball down and passing it a lot more and the football is more pleasing to the eye than the football being served up by Eck.

[LeeB]

Tell him it's probably a bit easier to play that when you're in the division your club is most comfortable in.

[supertommykN'iba]

If we were ever going to take a manager from Birmingham, I'm happy it was McLeish. He's always seemed to have respect for us, including after the 5-1.

"You have to say that Villa's agenda is totally different to ours - the bottom line is that they are a better team."

That seems like pretty flawed logic to me.

We shouldn't hire a manger because he seems to like us.

I didn't say that's a reason to hire him did I? I simply said 'If we were ever going to take a manager from Birmingham', translating as I wouldn't normally be too happy with it, however in this case he has always seemed to respect us so it's more acceptable to me!

[supertommykN'iba]

Not sure if mentioned, but it seems since the Swansea game there has been a 'protest' organised. The organiser has spent £100 on spray paint for his bed sheet by the sounds of it.

Here's your link

Sorry for capitals but I quote... MARCH WILL START FROM ASTON HOTEL WITTON ISLAND AT 2PM WE WILL MARCH AROUND THE GROUND FINISHING OUTSIDE THE VILLA VILLAGE. PLEASE BRING BANNERS AND FLAGS AS WE EXPECT MEDIA.

So we're going to be an even bigger laughing stock in the media for a days after this then. Great!

By media I think he means his mates blog.

Brilliant.

I really hope even more now that we turn Rovers over about 6 or 7 nil, followed by a good win against Everton. They would look twice as ridiculous before, during AND after the protest that way.

[Rick_avfc]

There is no point in protesting as we will end up looking stupid like the blackburn fans.

[itbrvilla]

There is no point in protesting as we will end up looking stupid like the blackburn fans.

Do they look stupid?  I don't think so.  Why everyone obsessed about becoming a laughing stock?  I bet alot of fans of other clubs eith couldn't give a shit or sympathise that we have the manager who delivers the most depressing football in the division.

[SheffieldVillain]

There is no point in protesting as we will end up looking stupid like the blackburn fans.

Do they look stupid?  I don't think so.  Why everyone obsessed about becoming a laughing stock?  I bet alot of fans of other clubs eith couldn't give a shit or sympathise that we have the manager who delivers the most depressing football in the division.

Yes, they look extremely stupid, not to mention vitriolic and massively, massively over-the-top.

[The Laughing Policeman]

Not sure if mentioned, but it seems since the Swansea game there has been a 'protest' organised. The organiser has spent £100 on spray paint for his bed sheet by the sounds of it.

Here's your link

Sorry for capitals but I quote... MARCH WILL START FROM ASTON HOTEL WITTON ISLAND AT 2PM WE WILL MARCH AROUND THE GROUND FINISHING OUTSIDE THE VILLA VILLAGE. PLEASE BRING BANNERS AND FLAGS AS WE EXPECT MEDIA.

So we're going to be an even bigger laughing stock in the media for a days after this then. Great!

By media I think he means his mates blog.

By media I think he means the H&V sellers.

[KRS]

Blackburn fans have been slated all over the media for their protests against Keane. I'm not saying they shouldnt be allowed to voice their opinions but the way they have gone about it has made them look stupid and they have lost any kind of sympathy from fans from other clubs and the media.

We'd look even more foolish given that we havent been in the bottom 3 yet and it would simply come across as a bitter "Villa fans dont want ex-Blues manager".  At a time when the clubs perception is pretty close to an all time low, any kind of anti-AM protests would only serve to damage our credibility even more.

[Rick_avfc]

There is no point in protesting as we will end up looking stupid like the blackburn fans.

Do they look stupid?  I don't think so.  Why everyone obsessed about becoming a laughing stock?  I bet alot of fans of other clubs eith couldn't give a shit or sympathise that we have the manager who delivers the most depressing football in the division.

Of course they now look stupid as nothing has come of it.  I agree fans have every right to voice the opinion but it becomes silly when a player scores and they cheer but when the player goes and shares the celebration with the manager, the fans start booing!  how pathetic is that?