collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

FFP by Rory
[Today at 01:04:34 AM]


Going West - Brentford away by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 12:57:13 AM]


Squad 25/26 by stevo_st
[Today at 12:55:38 AM]


Alex Moreno - Gone by eamonn
[Today at 12:20:33 AM]


Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by eamonn
[Today at 12:01:40 AM]


Unai Emery by eamonn
[August 21, 2025, 11:50:58 PM]


Brentford v Aston Villa Pre Match Thread. by tomd2103
[August 21, 2025, 11:41:22 PM]


Other Games 2025-26 by Brazilian Villain
[August 21, 2025, 11:25:21 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: FFP by Rory
[Today at 01:04:34 AM]


Re: Going West - Brentford away by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 12:57:13 AM]


Re: Squad 25/26 by stevo_st
[Today at 12:55:38 AM]


Going West - Brentford away by dave.woodhall
[Today at 12:37:56 AM]


Re: Alex Moreno - Gone by eamonn
[Today at 12:20:33 AM]


Re: Alex Moreno - Gone by Brend'Watkins
[Today at 12:15:01 AM]


Re: Squad 25/26 by eamonn
[Today at 12:06:53 AM]


Re: Alex Moreno - Gone by eamonn
[Today at 12:03:50 AM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?  (Read 193477 times)

Offline VinnieChase84

  • Member
  • Posts: 3031
  • GM : May, 2012
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #300 on: January 06, 2012, 08:43:17 AM »
If and its a massive IF we were to lose on saturday then i really couldnt see him staying on. The fall out would be worse than the Doncaster debacle.
I think he will at a minimum see out the season and i fully expect him to be hear come august also. AM saving grace this year is not just the absolute dross in the league (which in my opinion is the only reason were safe), however the biggest for me is that Blues are not in our league. Can you imahine if we had to play the scum this year and came out on the losing side on top of our current state!? AM would be near enough lynched!
Randy is clearly preparing the club for a sale and is doing the bare minimum therefore a guy like AM in charge can deflect some of the attention away from where the true troubles are and thats the board!

Offline john e

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 20562
  • GM : 28.06.2024
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #301 on: January 06, 2012, 08:48:57 AM »
dazzyg, put us all out of our misery and tell us who you would replace AM with. And the reasons for your choice.
Don't forget that whoever you pick will have exactly the same resources at his disposal as AM.


to be honest i could easily pick 10 managers who i would rather have than AM,
they wouldnt suit everybody on here the same as other peoples choices probably wouldnt suit me sometimes, because the whole thing is subjective,
 but then we are not picking the manager its mr Lerner and we have Mcliesh, so we have to learn to live with it for the time being

Offline Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 27297
  • Location: Couché dans le caniveau en regardant les étoiles.
  • GM : 29.08.2025
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #302 on: January 06, 2012, 09:02:54 AM »
Another day with McLeish at the helm just wondering if any fans on here think that if we were to get beat against Bristol Rovers who would want him sacked with immediate effect? This is a message to the fans who DO NOT WANT HIM not to the fans who think that loyal fans like myself are wrong in saying what I think and then have "an opinion" that I'm wrong.

It's all very well having an opinion Darren, but you do abuse the privilege.
So you are now asking the fans who don't want McLeish if he should be sacked if we lose against Brissul?
I suggest you stick to your ever so quiet booing.

Offline dazzyg

  • Member
  • Posts: 144
  • Location: BIRMINGHAM
  • I ❤ Alex McLeish
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #303 on: January 06, 2012, 09:12:46 AM »
Laughing Policeman - "misery" why are you so down about it? For christ sake cheer up man. As you are aware there are not many available candidates at the moment the only person I guess "available" is Mark Hughes. Someone who could possibly do a good job "if available" would have been David Moyes he has something about him doesnt take much shit etc etc. His style of play is more exciting etc etc.

El Farto  - thanks for allowing me to continue my "quiet booing" I didn't realise I needed permission.........
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 09:16:38 AM by dazzyg »

Offline dazzyg

  • Member
  • Posts: 144
  • Location: BIRMINGHAM
  • I ❤ Alex McLeish
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #304 on: January 06, 2012, 09:18:55 AM »
Having read the latest "comical comments" from certain fans how can anyone think his style of play is acceptable? I truly wonder if you are watching the same game? The lack of atmosphere in the ground is because of the manager is it not? Or am i watching a different game to the "fans" who think we should just sit back and accept shite.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

  • Member
  • Posts: 10142
  • Location: B62
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #305 on: January 06, 2012, 09:25:33 AM »
Just refreshed my memory by looking back the the post match comments against Chelsea, most really believed we had turned the corner, then we get beaten at home by a side that had never won away this season and we are back blaming Mcleish. Look i don't rate him as a manager but what happened against Swansea happened continually under MON, when away sides pack their midfield and hit us on the break we struggle. just as Chelsea did against us and United against Blackburn. Just remind me when was the last time we dominated an opposition at Villa Park?

Indeed MON was equally clueless about how to break down a team that parks the bus. I at least remember that we would have more than one attempt on goal and never looked quite so hapless. While I agree that all teams struggle to break down a defensively set up opposition, managers need to plan for it. MON had Plan A but no Plan B. To date I have not seen any evidence of Mcleish having any sort of plan.

Only swansea didn't park the bus they just passed us off the park, I agree with you about Mon and mcshit however. I think players are a problem most of the team Mon brought are still here and need to be replaced only problem is that costs money and we don't have it. If we did I wouldn't trust him to spend it wisely

Offline N'ZMAV

  • Member
  • Posts: 10090
  • Location: Peckham
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #306 on: January 06, 2012, 09:38:37 AM »
I can't see Lerner sacking him. It isn't going to happen this season.

Offline Dr Butler

  • Member
  • Posts: 5862
  • Location: Duxford, Cambridge.
  • GM : 10.08.2022
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #307 on: January 06, 2012, 09:42:50 AM »
Laughing Policeman - "misery" why are you so down about it? For christ sake cheer up man. As you are aware there are not many available candidates at the moment the only person I guess "available" is Mark Hughes. Someone who could possibly do a good job "if available" would have been David Moyes he has something about him doesnt take much shit etc etc. His style of play is more exciting etc etc.

El Farto  - thanks for allowing me to continue my "quiet booing" I didn't realise I needed permission.........


which Everton have you been watching then ?

Offline Concrete John

  • Member
  • Posts: 15175
  • Location: Flying blind on a rocket cycle
  • GM : Mar, 2014
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #308 on: January 06, 2012, 09:44:57 AM »
I can't see Lerner sacking him. It isn't going to happen this season.

He's on a 3 year contract, isn't he?

MY main issue is that if Randy is clearing the decks to prepare for a new spending spree, then with money to spend we could attract a better manager.  Just to point out I'm not one of those totally down on McLeish, but I do recognise he's not top level.  So are we going to back him in the summer, or wait another year or two to get everything right and build up a warchest to hand to a new man?

He really has been shat on if that's the case.  But if it's not and this is how we'll operate from here on out under Randy, then changing managers really won't make that much difference to us.

Offline Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 27297
  • Location: Couché dans le caniveau en regardant les étoiles.
  • GM : 29.08.2025
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #309 on: January 06, 2012, 09:47:34 AM »
Laughing Policeman - "misery" why are you so down about it? For christ sake cheer up man. As you are aware there are not many available candidates at the moment the only person I guess "available" is Mark Hughes. Someone who could possibly do a good job "if available" would have been David Moyes he has something about him doesnt take much shit etc etc. His style of play is more exciting etc etc.

And he's so successful isn't he? In fact when under Moyes, did Everton win anything?

Offline Chris Smith

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 36461
  • Location: At home
  • GM : 20.07.2026
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #310 on: January 06, 2012, 09:52:26 AM »
Laughing Policeman - "misery" why are you so down about it? For christ sake cheer up man. As you are aware there are not many available candidates at the moment the only person I guess "available" is Mark Hughes. Someone who could possibly do a good job "if available" would have been David Moyes he has something about him doesnt take much shit etc etc. His style of play is more exciting etc etc.

El Farto  - thanks for allowing me to continue my "quiet booing" I didn't realise I needed permission.........


which Everton have you been watching then ?

The one that lost at home to Bolton the other night? Why would Moyes leave one club with no money to spend for one in the same boat but where the fans will be on his back in 3 months time?

Offline N'ZMAV

  • Member
  • Posts: 10090
  • Location: Peckham
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #311 on: January 06, 2012, 09:53:22 AM »
Not wanting to open a completley different debate, John, but which better manager could we attract, and also remember, you say McLeish isn't top level, fair enough, i don't disagree, but remember, neither are we any more... :(

Offline N'ZMAV

  • Member
  • Posts: 10090
  • Location: Peckham
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #312 on: January 06, 2012, 09:53:52 AM »
Moyes would be a no-brainer. Good manager.

Offline Rick_avfc

  • Member
  • Posts: 1258
  • Location: Birmingham
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #313 on: January 06, 2012, 09:54:19 AM »
David Moyes to villa will NEVER happen.  we need to forget that unless we get a new mega rich owner who will invest heavily in the team again.

Offline Concrete John

  • Member
  • Posts: 15175
  • Location: Flying blind on a rocket cycle
  • GM : Mar, 2014
Re: Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?
« Reply #314 on: January 06, 2012, 09:54:38 AM »
Why would Moyes leave one club with no money to spend for one in the same boat but where the fans will be on his back in 3 months time?

3 months?  The moment one of the CBs hits a single ball off the ground or Heskey is on the pitch it'd start.

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal