Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?

[Dave Clark Five]

and.....

Why then do the fans who are paying to go into the game still create no atmosphere? As soon as we lose a game thats when we can get on the back of AM and show him (vocally) what we think of him

All stand up if you hate McLeish

[jembob]

SheffiedVillain - Im not asking anyone to "join in " I don't need anyone else to join I am more than capable of showing my annoyance to the ginger man by myself which I have done now for the past few games (Trinity road stand middle) my point is that I am amazed having heard fellow fans (away from the ground) that there are many more like myself who feel he is not the man to guide us. Dont just agree with the fans who are afraid to rock the boat. We pay good money to watch crap this is not on.

Did it ever occur to you that those who share your opinions put supporting the team first and think booing the manager come what may is counterproductive to that?

I noticed that there were a load of stewards between the dug out and tunnel after the Swansea game as they were clearly expecting Mcleish to get some grief. By the final whistle so many fans had already left in disgust that they didn't have to bother prtoecting him. He did get quite a bit of stick as he got to the tunnel.

[Chris Smith]

Our goalscoring record is abysmal, I don't think anyone could disagree with that. Not even Chris in his most argumentative mood.

The main reason it is that way is not because the strikers are missing chances, it is because we don't create them. Strikers are always going to miss chances, that is the way it goes, but if you're not creating them in the first place, you've got a real problem.

How many matches have we seen where we've had 1 - or zero - shots on target?

My point exactly.  I don't blame the strikers at all because as the fact about Benty having the fewest touches of any player in the Premier League proves the service just isn't there.

Then you have to question why the chances aren't coming.  I don't think it's the players selected because with Gabby, Ireland, Bannan, Albrighton, CNZ on the pitch we should be creating loads of chances.  But when you watch the game you see how conservative we're set up and how unadventurous we are going forward and the only conclusion you can draw is that the manager is instructing them to play this way.

No, it's your conclusion not the only one.

We got into good positions time and time again on Monday but the final ball or the touch of Bent caused moves to breakdown as well as Swansea always having 10 men behind the ball. If McLeish wanted to pay a conservative game he's pick a different group of players, you don't include Ireland and N'Zogbia if that's your game plan.

[Hoppo]

Not being argumentive. Just a question to Chris. Is their anything in your opinion that McLeish could do to improve us without spending any money?

[Chris Smith]

Not being argumentive. Just a question to Chris. Is their anything in your opinion that McLeish could do to improve us without spending any money?

Without money the other thing he needs is time.

I think he's got to a point where he's got the players buying into a system that has started to pay dividends, over the past few games most performances have been much improved but he can't do anything about the individuals errors that has cost us.

[Risso]

I think most people agreed at the time that the only chance McLeish had was if Lerner backed him with some serious transfer funds.  As that hasn't happened, I'd say that Alex Mcleish - transfer money + time = relegation.

[SheffieldVillain]

SheffiedVillain - Im not asking anyone to "join in " I don't need anyone else to join I am more than capable of showing my annoyance to the ginger man by myself which I have done now for the past few games (Trinity road stand middle) my point is that I am amazed having heard fellow fans (away from the ground) that there are many more like myself who feel he is not the man to guide us. Dont just agree with the fans who are afraid to rock the boat. We pay good money to watch crap this is not on.

As demonstrated by my learned colleagues, you are indeed quite clearly asking people to join in. Even when saying that you are not asking people to join in you then say 'don't just agree with the fans who are afraid to rock the boat'. This is also asking people to join in, as well as insulting everyone with a different point of view to you, which is incredibly arrogant of you.

As for 'my point is that I am amazed having heard fellow fans (away from the ground) that there are many more like myself who feel he is not the man to guide us.' you might want to rephrase your point as it is a touch on the difficult side to understand at present.

[Concrete John]

I think most people agreed at the time that the only chance McLeish had was if Lerner backed him with some serious transfer funds.  As that hasn't happened, I'd say that Alex Mcleish - transfer money + time = relegation.

I was of the opinion that in order to win the fans over he needed the money to get us in and around the Euro places again, but without doesn't mean relegation - more probably bobbing along where we are and opinions being mainly negative about him.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I think most people agreed at the time that the only chance McLeish had was if Lerner backed him with some serious transfer funds.  As that hasn't happened, I'd say that Alex Mcleish - transfer money + time = relegation.

I take it you no absolutely no faith with our youngsters, Risso?

[KRS]

I think most people agreed at the time that the only chance McLeish had was if Lerner backed him with some serious transfer funds.  As that hasn't happened, I'd say that Alex Mcleish - transfer money + time = relegation.

I take it you no absolutely no faith with our youngsters, Risso?

I'm afraid not. There are a few prospects but they cant be relied upon or expected to keep us out of relegation, and they need to be integrated into a solid team of first team regulars. The scenario where SAF can afford to bring in 3 or 4 younsters amongst a team of seasoned internationals is a long way off where we are right now.

[Risso]

I think most people agreed at the time that the only chance McLeish had was if Lerner backed him with some serious transfer funds.  As that hasn't happened, I'd say that Alex Mcleish - transfer money + time = relegation.

I take it you no absolutely no faith with our youngsters, Risso?

I think we've got some decent young players, but none of whom are going to make us anything other than a mid table side.  I also don't think that McLeish is the person to develop them.  Albrighton looks a shadow of the player he was, Delph hasn't impressed at all, Bannan looks talented but lightweight and Delfouneso isn't impressing,  Clark looks to be the best of the people given a chance so far, and Gary Gardner might live up to the hype, but if we're going to rely increasingly on our youth, then we need the stars around to help them, and we haven't got them.  Albrighton is struggling enough without having to play in front of either of the worst two full backs we've had at the club in years for example, and an increasingly pedestrian Petrov isn't going to get the best out of Clark or Bannan.

[john e]

I think most people agreed at the time that the only chance McLeish had was if Lerner backed him with some serious transfer funds.  As that hasn't happened, I'd say that Alex Mcleish - transfer money + time = relegation.

I take it you no absolutely no faith with our youngsters, Risso?

I'm afraid not. There are a few prospects but they cant be relied upon or expected to keep us out of relegation, and they need to be integrated into a solid team of first team regulars. The scenario where SAF can afford to bring in 3 or 4 younsters amongst a team of seasoned internationals is a long way off where we are right now.

i would strongly disagree with your view there KRS,
 i believe are youngsters are well capable of seeing us well clear of relegation if played in a positive manner, in fact the likes of Bannan, Clarke, Albrighton, Herd, and maybe Gardner are as good as if not better than most of the midfield players in the premieship from 9th/10thdown

[pauliewalnuts]

Hoping our youngsters will see us clear of relegation?

Proud history, bright future.

[SoccerHQ]

I shudder to think we we'll be in a year's time if McLeish is still here. We'll get away with it this season as I really can't see the likes of Bolton, Wigan, Wolves, QPR and Blackburn getting above 35 points but next season I'm not so sure the way the club is going.

He's totally lost me know with the Robbie Keane signing anyway.

[Legion]

I shudder to think we we'll be in a year's time if McLeish is still here. We'll get away with it this season as I really can't see the likes of Bolton, Wigan, Wolves, QPR and Blackburn getting above 35 points but next season I'm not so sure the way the club is going.

He's totally lost me know with the Robbie Keane signing anyway.

We've signed him? Cries. Far too many years too late.