Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?

[KevinGage]

I think you could reasonably conclude that GHs illness gave Lerner an out because GH would not have stood by while all his better players were sold and not be given any money to strengthen.

I posted similar a while back.   Not so much an 'out' for Lerner, more a chance to bring forward the savage cuts sooner- get the pain out of the way, so to speak. 

They were already set on the course of cost cutting post MON -and most of GH's deals lined up for the summer seemed to be cut price (though not necessarily bad) deals. The unfortunate reoccurrence of GH's illness presented them with an opportunity to go for a manager who would actually add numbers to the gate, a manager set on a similar path to GH, Or a manager who would be just grateful for a job- any job. And would be fully on board with his better players being sold and wage bill, wage bill, wage bill being the no.1 concern this season.

The problem with bringing all this forward sooner is that if gate receipts and matchday revenue continues to plummet, how better off are we in all honesty.

[Concrete John]

Yeah on the MOTD highlights they showed about 6 goal scoring chances for Chelsea compared to just Gabbys one-on-one. Funnily enough, I was furious at the bias coverage that they showed. Anyway, the point I was trying to make was that it looks like the Chelsea game was a one off result that was either due to AM tactics or a combination of factors going in our favour on the day.

I posted this earlier (on this thread, I think?) but I think the Chelsea result was a culmination of the good form we've shown since Bolton away, the Liverpool game excepted.  So not a one off for me, but then the goodwill, confidence and momentum that generated was thrown away against Swansea.

[Dave Clark Five]

supertommy - You obviously think that ginger is the one to guide us forward ? what a load of cobblers he is useless he has no idea what he is doing why take Ireland off when he was playing pretty well? AM will be the first manager to take two teams down in consecutive seasons. He has no idea what to do lets face it. Come on lets sing "WE WANT GINGER OUT I SAY WE WANT GINGER OUT" he is nothing more than a waste of
time we all know it apart from a few fans who thinks he is the right man - how wrong you are. Are you a secret nose??

If you want to sing it who is stopping you? Do you need a load of others with you to give you the courage? Give it a try at Bristol if it helps you.

[Chico Hamilton III]

AM will be the first manager to take two teams down in consecutive seasons.

except for when Avram Grant beat him to it last year

[supertommykN'iba]

supertommy - You obviously think that ginger is the one to guide us forward ? what a load of cobblers he is useless he has no idea what he is doing why take Ireland off when he was playing pretty well? AM will be the first manager to take two teams down in consecutive seasons. He has no idea what to do lets face it. Come on lets sing "WE WANT GINGER OUT I SAY WE WANT GINGER OUT" he is nothing more than a waste of time we all know it apart from a few fans who thinks he is the right man - how wrong you are. Are you a secret nose??

I do think McLeish is the one to guide us upwards at least, yes. He is a good manager developing a good team who play good Football at times.

I don't know why he took Ireland off, other than he wanted to play 4 4 2. I also thought it was a ridiculous idea as we could have played Ireland behind the striker in a 4 4 1 1 which is basically the same. However, I will not judge the man on the decision.

As DCF said, go on, sing it. Or do you need others to help you?

How wrong I am?? Shall we see about that? Will you say that if we were to win the FA Cup? You must have had a miserable New Years dazzyg after seeing us walk over Chelsea thanks to his tactics.

Yes, I am a secret nose. How did you guess? Was it the 843 posts over the space of nearly 6 years?

[supertommykN'iba]

supertommy - you say that Bent was standing around is it not to do with the fact the McLeish doesnt set out to play with a striker ?? Think about it. We all know that Bent is on his way out because he is disillusioned with how AM sets out his teams lets face it Am has always played for a draw in most games.

No, it isn't. It's to do with the fact that he is lazy and all he can do, as great as it is, is score goals.

AM evidently does try to play with a striker, yet I think we can tell and he is beginning to see that the best formation for us is not this 4 2 3 1, it is in fact the 4 4 2 or 4 4 1 1. Bent probably will leave, but if he does go, then I fully trust McLeish to purchase a suitable replacement if he feels there is one needed. With 2 wingers, DB has had more than enough chances in front of goal, and many of these have come in games that we have drawn where McLeish has set out to win.

I apologise that I do no agree with your very one sided opinion. I have a feeling I know what your opinion is based on.

[Legion]

FAO dazzyg:

Please do not accuse people of being, for example, "a bluenose" or "a manyoo fan" because you don't like or agree with what they are saying.

[Risso]

I do think McLeish is the one to guide us upwards at least, yes. He is a good manager developing a good team who play good Football at times.

I'm afraid as stated above, that is absolute cobblers.  He isn't developing a good side at all.  We've lost our two best wingers, bought the absolutely dire Hutton and the inconsistent N'Zogbia who isn't a patch on Young and Downing, and the only bit of business we look like doing in January is bringing in Robbie Keane.  As for playing good football, we were shown how to do that yesterday by a team who cost a fraction of what the Villa team to put together.  As for being a good manager - purlease.  He's terrible.  Shit football, shit results.

[supertommykN'iba]

If I'm proven wrong, I'm proven wrong, but I think he is building something good at VP.

[Risso]

If I'm proven wrong, I'm proven wrong, but I think he is building something good at VP.

Based on what exactly?

[dave.woodhall]

supertommy - you say that Bent was standing around is it not to do with the fact the McLeish doesnt set out to play with a striker ?? Think about it. We all know that Bent is on his way out because he is disillusioned with how AM sets out his teams lets face it Am has always played for a draw in most games.

You don't half seem to know what everyone else thinks.

[dazzyg]

Thankyou for the glowing comments fellow villa fans........ we all have our own opinion and I just happen to be one of the many fans who want McLeish out. Why do some fans think the sun shines out of his arse? The man is taking us to an all time low why cant some fans see it. I was at Chelsea we won ok lets get over it Chelsea are not the team they were. Swansea played us off the pitch with seven changes to  their previous game. They had not won an away game all season they play us and win. Mcleish got small heath relegated are we next?

[LeeB]

Thankyou for the glowing comments fellow villa fans........ we all have our own opinion and I just happen to be one of the many fans who want McLeish out. Why do some fans think the sun shines out of his arse? The man is taking us to an all time low why cant some fans see it. I was at Chelsea we won ok lets get over it Chelsea are not the team they were. Swansea played us off the pitch with seven changes to  their previous game. They had not won an away game all season they play us and win. Mcleish got small heath relegated are we next?

Has the thought ever occured to you that you may actually have it all wrong? Or that those that don't agree with you may be employing an unusual tactic called "thinking for themselves"?

Personally, I think anyone who goes to a game to boo a manager who's had six months in the job is a wanker, the lowest of the low, and drags the good name of my club through the mud.

It's just my opinion, of course.

[ROBBO]

Calling someone the lowest of the low is as bad as calling someone a bluenose. Just my opinion of course.

[john e]

still makes me laugh when people talk about us losing are best twp players, admittedly Young was a super player who we cant replace straight away, but Downing ?

in the pub watching Liverpool last night, packed out with Liverpool fans, absolutley hated Downing, they were going mad at the useless article, far worse than any stick we give our players, at times it was almost violent abuse, LOL

 the bloke is the biggest waste of 20 mill ever, i know we didnt reinvest so it makes it all academic, but to talk about Downing as though he would make any difference to our current team is rubbish, he would be totally invisable in our team this year, he had no bottle anyways, he would be of no use at all.