Are We Alex McLeish's Claret & Blue Army Now?

[richard moore]

I think with the performances in the last few games he's bought himself some time in my view. If we play like we did today against Bristol Rovers and Everton I will not be amused.

I'm just trying to work out whether we are shit or if we are an good but inconsistent team. Whilst I'm trying to figure that out I'm going to hold off calling for McLeish to be fed to the pigs. We picked up over the last few performances and the question is whether it was today or them that was the blip.

Exactly where I'm at.

Frighteningly mediocre like 85% of the rest of the division which is why you are seeing these sorts of non sensical sequences of results all over the place this season, not just in our case. Even the other 15% of the league (your Man City's etc) aren't much cop either. Put me together a world class team from Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham.......and I mean world class so don't go including the likes of Van Der Vaart or Rooney who have done bugger all at international level

[ROBBO]

Agree with you Richard the top teams are not that good it's just the rest are woeful. We have not played consistantly well at home for a long while, even in our better period under MON we could not break the away side down when they stacked midfield but we are not the only ones. Chelsea were perfect for us, desperate for a win and left themselves exposed on the break. To my mind except for a couple of youngsters the whole lot at Villa needs to be got rid of.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

I mentioned in the postmatch thread that Swansea's Board had appointed Martinez to play a passing game, which he duly built a side around. When he left for Wigan they employed a coach (Paolo Sousa) to continue that way of playing. it didn't work out, so they appointed Rodgers, again with that philosophy. So most of those Swansea playewrs have been playing in a similar style for yonks.

We've gone from (only Plan A) O'Neill, to a seemingly random selection of Managers each with a different idea of how the game should be played (how the feck was Martinez considered alongside McLeish from a footballing style point of view?) and unsurprisingly ended up without even a Plan A.

On the one hand there's a valid argument to say that McLeish hasn't been given much of a chance to build a team around a particular style, and looks to be hamstrung from a financial point of view to achieve that anyway, but on the other hand I can see the validity of the argument that what he's done so far doesn't warrant that chance.

[dazzyg]

No No No !!!!!! Do not get carried away with the Chelsea result it was a one off. The defeat against Swansea yesteday summed it up perfectly. We are going nowhere fast. McLeish has to go NOW otherwise we are going to fighting to stay up.

[flybo]

NO

What he said!

He is a she.

Sorry i am all man

[Concrete John]

No No No !!!!!! Do not get carried away with the Chelsea result it was a one off. The defeat against Swansea yesteday summed it up perfectly. We are going nowhere fast. McLeish has to go NOW otherwise we are going to fighting to stay up.

I think it's wrong to dismiss the Chelsea result as it was the culmination of some good form for us, which started at Bolton away, even though we did play awful against Liverpool.  In truth we're generally better then what we saw yesterday, but not as good as what we saw against Chelsea.

However, when I see what this side is capable of you do have to question why the manager is failing to get that out of them more often?  Man for man we have enough to be 'best of the rest' and finish 7th.  We're only 7 points off that right now and when you think of the stupid points we've dropped it's not beyond the realms of possibility.   

[Simba]

If we are his 'army' I for one am ready revolt and form a Military Junta.

[Legion]

NO

What he said!

He is a she.

Sorry i am all man

She is actually a he. No idea where I got that from!

[Chris Smith]

I think with the performances in the last few games he's bought himself some time in my view. If we play like we did today against Bristol Rovers and Everton I will not be amused.

I'm just trying to work out whether we are shit or if we are an good but inconsistent team. Whilst I'm trying to figure that out I'm going to hold off calling for McLeish to be fed to the pigs. We picked up over the last few performances and the question is whether it was today or them that was the blip.

Exactly where I'm at.

Frighteningly mediocre like 85% of the rest of the division which is why you are seeing these sorts of non sensical sequences of results all over the place this season, not just in our case. Even the other 15% of the league (your Man City's etc) aren't much cop either. Put me together a world class team from Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham.......and I mean world class so don't go including the likes of Van Der Vaart or Rooney who have done bugger all at international level

That's an illogical argument. What have Messi or Ronaldo done at international level?

[SheffieldVillain]

I think with the performances in the last few games he's bought himself some time in my view. If we play like we did today against Bristol Rovers and Everton I will not be amused.

I'm just trying to work out whether we are shit or if we are an good but inconsistent team. Whilst I'm trying to figure that out I'm going to hold off calling for McLeish to be fed to the pigs. We picked up over the last few performances and the question is whether it was today or them that was the blip.

Exactly where I'm at.

Frighteningly mediocre like 85% of the rest of the division which is why you are seeing these sorts of non sensical sequences of results all over the place this season, not just in our case. Even the other 15% of the league (your Man City's etc) aren't much cop either. Put me together a world class team from Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham.......and I mean world class so don't go including the likes of Van Der Vaart or Rooney who have done bugger all at international level

That's an illogical argument. What have Messi or Ronaldo done at international level?

And going further back, George Weah, Ryan Giggs, George Best weren't World Cup winners at international level but they were certainly world class players.

[JUAN PABLO]

I know someone who works at Villa , he says AMC is over technical , hes too robotic and relies on the computer feedback on performance .

[dazzyg]

It's about time we started to let McLeish know how we really feel rather than pussy footing around we don't want him SIMPLE !!! We need to start singing for him to be sacked let's be honest the majority of us don't want him there are a few who say give hime a chance, why? He has had six months which was far too long anyway.

[Mister E]

I mentioned in the postmatch thread that Swansea's Board had appointed Martinez to play a passing game, which he duly built a side around. When he left for Wigan they employed a coach (Paolo Sousa) to continue that way of playing. it didn't work out, so they appointed Rodgers, again with that philosophy. So most of those Swansea playewrs have been playing in a similar style for yonks.

We've gone from (only Plan A) O'Neill, to a seemingly random selection of Managers each with a different idea of how the game should be played (how the feck was Martinez considered alongside McLeish from a footballing style point of view?) and unsurprisingly ended up without even a Plan A.

My take was that GHou was going to be the start of the footballing hegemony down at VP ... but RL gave up on that idea before it had had any chance of seeding.

[supertommykN'iba]

It's about time we started to let McLeish know how we really feel.

Ok dazzyg, thanks for giving us the nod. I will therefore sing 'Alex McLeish's Claret and Blue Army' for 90 minutes straight at Bristol Rovers Away.

He's a good manager. He doesn't tell the players to fcuk up like they do, and he most certainly doesn't tell Darren Bent to stand around up front doing nothing. Obviously if things go badly in the next couple of games, opinion would start to change. He's building the team to play like it did against Chelsea, now he knows how to do it, it will still take time to integrate it.

[Legion]

I know someone who works at Villa , he says AMC is over technical , hes too robotic and relies on the computer feedback on performance .

I've seen that data. It is very comprehensive indeed.