How safe are we?

[Ads]

No need for a thread like this.

We may be horrendous against anyside in the top 7, but we're still miles ahead of the complete and utter pish that is Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton, as has been proved this season.

[Greg N'Ash]

got a text off my scouse mate. No gloating, just the line "you just don't even bother trying do you?"

can't disagree.

[JUAN PABLO]

I got this

Crikey, you really are shite!!! Is it like that all the time John!? We ass-raped you today, and slowed down second half!!

[Greg N'Ash]

that seems the general opinion of most neutrals. When Suarez started taking the piss out of our back 4 i just wanted it to stop frankly..

[PaulWinch again]

To be honest I've never seen a team get more viciously slated on TV for the manner of our performances and frankly I can't argue with the opinions of the pundits on this occasion.

[NeilH]

To be honest I've never seen a team get more viciously slated on TV for the manner of our performances and frankly I can't argue with the opinions of the pundits on this occasion.

I was watching it on Dutch telly and the Dutch commentator was also ripping into us. I'm afraid, you can switch the country, but the opinion of us still remains that we stink out any game we are involved in.

[JUAN PABLO]

To be honest I've never seen a team get more viciously slated on TV for the manner of our performances and frankly I can't argue with the opinions of the pundits on this occasion.

well we were rightly slated on the radio for the Spurzz game , then the Manure performance and have got rightly slated again .     

[JUAN PABLO]

Most people are saying its the worse Villa team I have ever seen . 

That includes DOL years and the houlier year , people are really noticing now , except of course Randy Lerner ...

[CJ]

Pressure is mounting on Steve Kean apparently.  Heard on R5 that the Lancashire Post has moved calls for him to stand down from the back pages to the Editorial/front pages. Really need him to stay - a change of manager may give them a lift and the MON effect will probably lift Sunderland away from the dead men. Still leaves Bolton and Wigan but of the others we've failed to beat Wolves, Albion, Swansea and QPR among others so far. And the shiteness of our football seems to be getting ingrained now. I'm genuinely worried.

[andrew08]

Worst Villa side I've ever seen ? In terms of passion and will to win it's on a par with the Hodge/relegation era of the mid eighties. In terms of ability it's about average to what I've always seen, the 80-82 boys excepted. Brian Littles team, at its peak, would beat it I'm sure as would Ron Atkinsons. MON team would clearly beat what is MON's B team. It's as good as anything DOL put out, John Gregory's  side had better players but could also duck out big matches. A fans XI would beat the teams of Billy Mac and Turner

Its different era but it would be interesting to see this lot play Taylors Mk1 side. Gabby/Bent would kill that defence, but Daley would murder Hutton or Warnock. Sid and Platt likewise.

Not one of todays team would be allowed near to Bodymoor Heath in 1981. Saunders would eat the lot of em !

[eastie]

No need for a thread like this.

We may be horrendous against anyside in the top 7, but we're still miles ahead of the complete and utter pish that is Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton, as has been proved this season.

We are not miles better than them and things can change quickly, wigan have fight in them and blackburn with a new manager should pull clear but we are in real trouble and anyone who thinks we are too good to go down is wrong.

[supertommykN'iba]

It's scary how bad this league is....

I've just done the predictor and somehow got this....

1 Man City - 98
2 Man Utd - 95
3 Tottenham - 85
4 Arsenal - 80
5 Chelsea - 79
6 Liverpool - 74
7 Newcastle - 70
8 Stoke - 51
9 Villa - 49
10 Norwich - 47
11 Sunderland - 44
12 Everton - 43
13 Swansea - 42
14 Fulham - 41
15 QPR - 37
16 West Brom - 33
17 Wolves - 30
18 Bolton - 30
19 Wigan - 29
20 Blackburn - 18

It just shows the difference in starts to the season really. Extremely unrealistic - where are we supposed to get another 30 points from!?

[eastie]

It's scary how bad this league is....

I've just done the predictor and somehow got this....

1 Man City - 98
2 Man Utd - 95
3 Tottenham - 85
4 Arsenal - 80
5 Chelsea - 79
6 Liverpool - 74
7 Newcastle - 70
8 Stoke - 51
9 Villa - 49
10 Norwich - 47
11 Sunderland - 44
12 Everton - 43
13 Swansea - 42
14 Fulham - 41
15 QPR - 37
16 West Brom - 33
17 Wolves - 30
18 Bolton - 30
19 Wigan - 29
20 Blackburn - 18

It just shows the difference in starts to the season really. Extremely unrealistic - where are we supposed to get another 30 points from!?

One things for sure no way will newcastle get anywhere near 70 points.

[Chris Smith]

No need for a thread like this.

We may be horrendous against anyside in the top 7, but we're still miles ahead of the complete and utter pish that is Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton, as has been proved this season.

We are not miles better than them and things can change quickly, wigan have fight in them and blackburn with a new manager should pull clear but we are in real trouble and anyone who thinks we are too good to go down is wrong.

Wigan are crap, a jammy draw against a lacklustre Chelsea doesn't change that. Why "should" Blackburn pull clear?

You were saying all the sort of stuff last season, we're better than at least half the league but we have a massive inferiority complex against the top 6.

[Simba]

Well you may be right. Hope so.

But if the way we play now to acheive this is the answer to mid table I for one am not interested.

Fight, re-build, look for glory fail or not. Be the Villa we know. Crap and brilliant. In the same season FGS but at least give it a go. Look for goals. Other fans like the Villa because fail or not we have always (mostly) played footy.

This is death by embarassement. (sp)