Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[andyh]

It seems incredible that a team that had so much of the ball in second half (us) could actually contrive to do absolutely fuck all with it.

Suarez was tearing us a new arsehole today, and should have had a hatrick.
0-2 flatters us...fuck,  0-5 would have flattered us.

Mcleish out.

[Phil from the upper holte]

It was Grant that said to mcshit we need to make an attacking change, can he not see it himself?

[villa for life]

doesn't matter who said what. They are a team. Teamwork...

[Pete3206]

Pants.

[Brian Taylor]

Woeful. I can only hope we have some spare shekels in the window, next month. Otherwise Enda Stevens has a big job to do! Look forward to his arrival!

[timeoutbigbar]

He won't change and we won't sack him.  Brace yourself lads..

[DB]

Reality is transient and football is no different. A couple of seasons ago, I was livid when we lost to Stoke and blew our chance to cement a top four place. This year, it's a new reality. McLeish is not to blame even if many people on here want to make him a scapegoat.

So er OK, who do you put it down to for the poor movement, poor passing, poor drive, poor tactics? Doug?

[eamonn]

I don't understand the comments that half the players aren't good enough, or they're kids, or that we're missing Young, Downing, Milner, Barry, Southgate, Yorke and Cowans...

Look at the way the newly promoted teams pass and defend like Swansea, show bottle and determination like Norwich and QPR. Even Wigan gave Chelsea a game last night. It's as if we're feeling sorry for ourselves that we're not a top six club anymore so will roll over to all of them. The one thing I thought McLeish would have over Houlier is organisation. And maybe even a bit of fucking bottle and conviction. He's failed on those without mentioning the fact that he's offered little to our attacking play apart from Gabby's resurgence.

Embarassing, inept and just very sad more than anything.

[mrfuse]

absolute shite would have been more entertained if Id gone christmas shopping I left early so i could watch some decent football

[pauliewalnuts]

That was truly fucking terrible. i don't think I've ever seen a game in which one side gave the ball away so constantly.

We really a very poor side indeed, and with a run of difficult fixtures still to come, we are going to be down the arse end of the table pretty quickly.

I can't believe what is happening to this club. The owner and his sidekick must be truly, truly fucking clueless to have conspired to produce this mess.

Sell your best players, don't replace them, appoint a manager nobody wants and who has a reputation for negative football and relegations. It is all so depressingly predictable.

The aspiration, the lifeblood, the ambition and the happiness has been sucked out of the club, and it is your fucking fault, Lerner.

If he's sat the other side of the Atlantic somehow pleased with the way things are going (I'm assuming he checks our results every now and then), then he's even more clueless than I'd thought him to be, and is leading us on a downward curve at a rate of knots.

Absolutely pathetic.

[PaulTheVillan]

All we need now is for randy to buy the team some small heaths shirts then his job is done 

[Risso]

Any time would struggle with the loss of their two first choice forwards, but the sad truth is that they probably wouldn't have made much difference.  I really do not want to see Heskey in a Villa shirt ever again, and his final game for the club cannot come quickly enough.  This season we're going to rely on being better than Wigan, Blackburn and Bolton for our fun.

[Risso]

That was truly fucking terrible. i don't think I've ever seen a game in which one side gave the ball away so constantly.

We really a very poor side indeed, and with a run of difficult fixtures still to come, we are going to be down the arse end of the table pretty quickly.

I can't believe what is happening to this club. The owner and his sidekick must be truly, truly fucking clueless to have conspired to produce this mess.

Sell your best players, don't replace them, appoint a manager nobody wants and who has a reputation for negative football and relegations. It is all so depressingly predictable.

The aspiration, the lifeblood, the ambition and the happiness has been sucked out of the club, and it is your fucking fault, Lerner.

If he's sat the other side of the Atlantic somehow pleased with the way things are going (I'm assuming he checks our results every now and then), then he's even more clueless than I'd thought him to be, and is leading us on a downward curve at a rate of knots.

Absolutely pathetic.

As ever, perfectly summed up.  It really wasn't hard to see the end result of the combination of a disinterested Lerner and a poor manager like McLeish, but this is pretty bloody awful.

[nick harper]

Our young players are sadly not good enough.

[TonyD]

He had the chance to bring in Clark and Carlos.  He had the chance the play Weimann over Heskey.  I see nothing on our manager that is positive.  Please don't let him near the transfer market in Jan.  Let's hope he has gone by then.  We might not see Bent in a Villa shirt again I fear.