Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[ez]

How long do we have to put up with this crap?

[garyshawsknee]

Im sure that McCleish will come out with threats to the press that players will be dropped if performances dont improve,but itll be the same useless bunch on Wednesday.  How Collins hasnt been dropped is beyond me,and Cuellar will be sold for peanuts in Jan so that McCleish will bring in another crappy signing.

[KRS]

Dont feed the troll.

[mattjpa]

n zog was good today.....

[villadelph]

Seem to be on my own here.......look at the teamsheets. Did you expect anything else? We lost, but only by two.
 We beat the team last week, just as we should have.... Ok, a win today would have been a bonus, but the important thing was we beat Bolton.

ok, when we start to consistently lose to the bottom six teams, then there maybe something to worry about. As for now, McLeish has done a very good job of keeping us clear of the likes of Wigan and Bolton etc

Have fun being 2nd place for your entire life with that attitude. Randy Lerner has become accustomed to losing. I don't want to be an alsoran, I want to win. We're a big club with the ambition to be irrelevant.

[Neil Hawkes]

No urgency, no movement off the ball, no passion........all in all pretty shit.

Holy shit, I forgot to put this in my previous post. We are terrible at movement off the ball. Delph, Petrov, Delf, and N'Zogbia just standing around.. it was a joke.

It actually made me laugh out loud in the second half. Bannan had the ball in midfield, and Petrov, Albrighton and Delfouneso were standing about 10 yards from him, each marked, but kind of bouncing on their heels, as if they were at the end of a bungee rope. None of them actually moved into space.

It was very sad to see :-(

[garyshawsknee]

Seem to be on my own here.......look at the teamsheets. Did you expect anything else? We lost, but only by two.
 We beat the team last week, just as we should have.... Ok, a win today would have been a bonus, but the important thing was we beat Bolton.

ok, when we start to consistently lose to the bottom six teams, then there maybe something to worry about. As for now, McLeish has done a very good job of keeping us clear of the likes of Wigan and Bolton etc

You should re-look at that last sentence and hang your head in shame.

[Mister E]

decent performance. only losing by two is nothing to be ashamed of. We've lost Gareth, James, Ashley and Stuart yet we are still comfortably mid-table. credit to McLeish where it is due. Not ideal, but not too bad

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[joecrow]

long time reader, occasional poster. just got back. left early for only the 2nd time(1st was in 1986 i think, arsenal at home) couldn,t bring myself to support them any longer, utter rubbish, absoloutly no positives to take. not going to arsenal, can't be arsed anymore. surely this cant be allowed to continue?

[TheSandman]

Seem to be on my own here.......look at the teamsheets. Did you expect anything else? We lost, but only by two.
 We beat the team last week, just as we should have.... Ok, a win today would have been a bonus, but the important thing was we beat Bolton.

ok, when we start to consistently lose to the bottom six teams, then there maybe something to worry about. As for now, McLeish has done a very good job of keeping us clear of the likes of Wigan and Bolton etc

I do agree that some people are over-egging the pudding here somewhat. We at least tried to be a bit more adventurous today and I don't think that it is reasonable to expect us to win with the injuries we had today but I don't think our performance was decent. More like, in line with what I was expecting which wasn't much at all. I am disappointed in how badly we defended.

As Chipsticks says, we are not going to be relegated and we won't achieve anything of note this season (and in light of the constraints around him it would be unreasonable to expect more than that from McLeish) and this is something we've got to face up to.

[villadelph]

Seem to be on my own here.......look at the teamsheets. Did you expect anything else? We lost, but only by two.
 We beat the team last week, just as we should have.... Ok, a win today would have been a bonus, but the important thing was we beat Bolton.

ok, when we start to consistently lose to the bottom six teams, then there maybe something to worry about. As for now, McLeish has done a very good job of keeping us clear of the likes of Wigan and Bolton etc

I do agree that some people are over-egging the pudding here somewhat. We at least tried to be a bit more adventurous today and I don't think that it is reasonable to expect us to win with the injuries we had today but I don't think our performance was decent. More like, in line with what I was expecting which wasn't much at all. I am disappointed in how badly we defended.

As Chipsticks says, we are not going to be relegated and we won't achieve anything of note this season (and in light of the constraints around him it would be unreasonable to expect more than that from McLeish) and this is something we've got to face up to.

You mean we shouldn't expect our own players to pass to a each other? We can't even string three passes together! McLeish is a "defensive" manager that was supposed to plug up the holes in the back.. and they are HORRID. Our problems are only getting worse. As long as the fans aren't behind McLeish, and quite frankly they never will be and never should be for that matter, we're not going anywhere. Terrible appointment. Why would you take a piss on your supporters like that Randy?

[JUAN PABLO]

That was really awful to watch .  We are bad . We are embarrassing to our great name and our great fans.

I couldn't wait for the game to finish , liverpool are average but we wasnt going to score until at least Christmas 2013.   

Please explain BALL RETENTION  to our players .

[Singapore Villa]

F**king inept performance.  Did we even create one meaningful chance in the entire game?  We have fallen so far in the last 18mths, it is sad to see. 

[villa for life]

Reality is transient and football is no different. A couple of seasons ago, I was livid when we lost to Stoke and blew our chance to cement a top four place. This year, it's a new reality. McLeish is not to blame even if many people on here want to make him a scapegoat.

[Apyadg]

We're now closer to 18th than we are sixth. I can't see us being higher than 15th by January with the fixtures we have.