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Author Topic: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?  (Read 18727 times)

Offline WALTERS WARRIORS

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2011, 02:21:03 PM »
Not entirely supporting Mcleish but he had a lot more to do than Jol. And sitting higher than Fulham so the current position is in favour of Mcleish. Jol has the look of a manager who is not happy and i get the feeling he will not stay there long. This win at Bolton has just kept the fans and players level of hope high enough to start believeing we can can improve. We have got to support Mcleish as much as we can. This is "our"  team and we need to protect it........   

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2011, 04:57:58 PM »
Poor displays?  They looked half decent to me against Liverpool. 

Anyway, what is it with modern day footballers and "training methods" they don't appear to like? We had it last season with our lot apparently not liking GH's methods when it was clear the fitness of some of our players wasn't up to scratch. 

The fitness thing has been there for a few years now. I remember John Terry saying that Chelsea waited for the 60th minute mark against us as they knew we'd get tired.

I remember that, then I remembered that we had a good record against them and recalled him having a tantrum kicking the post after conceding at VP and thought "what a lying twat".

Pretty sure you're misremembering that. He said it a year and a half ago after they hammered us 7-1 and before they beat us 3-0 in the semi-final of the FA Cup when they scored two late goals which didn't exactly disprove his point.
In fairness that day, the last 2 were scored when we were pushing for the equilizer, so that cant be put down to lack of fitness.

Offline Macho Man Randy Savage

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #47 on: December 13, 2011, 05:19:01 PM »
I wonder if Martin Jol could dodge a bullet.

Offline Summers

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2011, 07:32:48 PM »
Fulham have a smaller budget than us? How much was Ruiz? 10m? Hardly a mall budget.

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2011, 08:15:29 PM »
Jol's a decent manager but whether or not he was the right man to take over here in the summer is another thing. He certainly would have been a more natural replacement to Houllier, football wise but I think he very much fancied a return to London.

Offline The Man With A Stick

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #50 on: December 15, 2011, 03:46:53 PM »
Just seen Jol's ridiculous quote after last night's draw with Odense (remember them?):

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"It is awful to go out of the competition the way we did but hopefully we gain something from the fact that we don't have to play Thursday matches."

This is coming from the manager of Fulham, a club who have won the square root of bugger all in their illustrious history.  I know we're hardly in a position to talk, but at least we were going for another target at the time.  What are Fulham aiming for?

I don't know why English clubs bother qualifying for the Europa League if they can't be arsed with it.  Don't like either of them but at least Stoke and Small Heath are giving it a go.

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #51 on: December 15, 2011, 06:38:56 PM »
Just seen Jol's ridiculous quote after last night's draw with Odense (remember them?):

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"It is awful to go out of the competition the way we did but hopefully we gain something from the fact that we don't have to play Thursday matches."

This is coming from the manager of Fulham, a club who have won the square root of bugger all in their illustrious history.  I know we're hardly in a position to talk, but at least we were going for another target at the time.  What are Fulham aiming for?

I don't know why English clubs bother qualifying for the Europa League if they can't be arsed with it.  Don't like either of them but at least Stoke and Small Heath are giving it a go.

What amazes me is that UEFA doesn't see this. This competition doesn't have to be a league. It can be a knockout format like it used to be. The reduced games will provide greater quality. The Europa League isn't even a poor mans Champions League because the money is pathetic. It needs to be scrapped or completely revamped if they want any club to take it really seriously. And the whole thinkg about CL clubs dropping into it is even a bigger joke.

Offline Mellin

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2011, 02:17:15 AM »
Knockout only.
Less teams.
No Champions League dropouts.
Move to Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Champions League place for the winner.
Rename UEFA Cup.

Competition sorted.

Offline cheltenhamlion

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2011, 08:51:56 AM »
Agreed Mellin.

Offline Pete3206

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2011, 10:35:50 AM »
Dodge a bullet? He's only been there a few months.

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2011, 11:39:13 AM »
Knockout only.
Less teams.
No Champions League dropouts.
Move to Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Champions League place for the winner.
Rename UEFA Cup.

Competition sorted.

Yep bang on. On the one hand getting a Champions League place kind of undermines the competition, but it's the only thing that can give it real meaning.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2011, 12:06:54 PM »
Dodge a bullet? He's only been there a few months.

He's had as long as McLeish has, and some are writing him off already.

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2011, 12:15:10 PM »
Knockout only.
Less teams.
No Champions League dropouts.
Move to Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Champions League place for the winner.
Rename UEFA Cup.

Competition sorted.

to think these out of touch old dinosaurs sit round a table drinking their free expensive wine , staying in 6 star hotels and they havent got the brains together to do this .     

Offline not3bad

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2011, 12:23:34 PM »
Dodge a bullet? He's only been there a few months.

He's had as long as McLeish has, and some are writing him off already.

He's in the same boat as Mcleish then.

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Re: Martin Jol - Did we dodge a bullet?
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2011, 12:49:47 PM »
Knockout only.
Less teams.
No Champions League dropouts.
Move to Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Champions League place for the winner.
Rename UEFA Cup.

Competition sorted.

to think these out of touch old dinosaurs sit round a table drinking their free expensive wine , staying in 6 star hotels and they havent got the brains together to do this .     

It's all part of the greater plan to familiarize Europe with all football teams even the unfashionable ones ....NK Maribor, Vorksla Pavlovla..Birmingham City.

 


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