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Author Topic: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread  (Read 717750 times)

Offline TheSandman

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2490 on: January 17, 2012, 10:40:50 PM »
Newcastle are a funny one, and I can't make them out this season.

Is their relative success a case of Ashley learning from his mistakes and making a shrewd (if unpopular at the time) managerial signing in Pardew, or have they just got lucky?

Good scouting set up.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2491 on: January 17, 2012, 10:44:51 PM »
How many supporters would have been happy with Pardew as our manager? well okay most would have been if we new who the alternative was. For how many years have we been decrying the lack of cheaper imports, all through the MON years and it looks like we are continuing the process, can we get GH back please even with a dicky heart.

Why?  In his time here, Houllier bought Darren Bent for a small fortune, Kyle Walker, Robert Pires and Jean II Makoun.  His only foray into the foreign league was Makoun who wasn't particularly cheap, or good.  Plus look at all the absolute shite he bought in his latter years at Liverpool.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2492 on: January 17, 2012, 10:47:43 PM »
How many supporters would have been happy with Pardew as our manager? well okay most would have been if we new who the alternative was. For how many years have we been decrying the lack of cheaper imports, all through the MON years and it looks like we are continuing the process, can we get GH back please even with a dicky heart.

Why?  In his time here, Houllier bought Darren Bent for a small fortune, Kyle Walker, Robert Pires and Jean II Makoun.  His only foray into the foreign league was Makoun who wasn't particularly cheap, or good.  Plus look at all the absolute shite he bought in his latter years at Liverpool.

Pires was acquired because we were desperate for bodies, and he was unattached.

Bent was a good signing. Walker did very well for us and is currently holding down a place in a side with title aspirations.

Makoun is one to argue on, but seven matches isn't really the best of runs to settle in a new league.

Houllier had also earmarked Cabaye for this summer, and he'd have been here now if the manager still was.

I'm not saying Houllier was some kind of transfer market genius, but it's safe to say we wouldnt see that brainless fuckwit Hutton running around for us now if he'd still been in charge.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2493 on: January 17, 2012, 10:49:47 PM »
I did'nt think there was anything wrong with the players Houiller brought in. Bent's been good, Walker did well even if he was'nt ours and Makoun may have settled had he been given a fair crack this season. Pires was just brought in to pad the squad out when we had that stupid injury list.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2494 on: January 17, 2012, 10:50:27 PM »
He'd have fucked off that useless thunderclunge Warnock too.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2495 on: January 17, 2012, 10:56:19 PM »
Newcastle are a funny one, and I can't make them out this season.

Is their relative success a case of Ashley learning from his mistakes and making a shrewd (if unpopular at the time) managerial signing in Pardew, or have they just got lucky?

Good scouting set up.
Is it though?

Tiote is fair enough, but anyone with even a passing interest in football outside the Premier League (as you would hope even the worst professional scout would have) would have been fully aware of Cabaye, Ba, Santon and Ben Arfa. All of them international players with experience of playing in the Champions League.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2496 on: January 17, 2012, 11:03:31 PM »
Fair point Dave. It seems the prices are simply less in France, so I guess it is simply good business sense, not the scouting as such.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2497 on: January 17, 2012, 11:08:52 PM »
Newcastle are a funny one, and I can't make them out this season.

Is their relative success a case of Ashley learning from his mistakes and making a shrewd (if unpopular at the time) managerial signing in Pardew, or have they just got lucky?

Good scouting set up.
Is it though?

Tiote is fair enough, but anyone with even a passing interest in football outside the Premier League (as you would hope even the worst professional scout would have) would have been fully aware of Cabaye, Ba, Santon and Ben Arfa. All of them international players with experience of playing in the Champions League.
Exactly, its not like they're unheard of.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2498 on: January 17, 2012, 11:10:22 PM »
Newcastle are a funny one, and I can't make them out this season.

Is their relative success a case of Ashley learning from his mistakes and making a shrewd (if unpopular at the time) managerial signing in Pardew, or have they just got lucky?

Good scouting set up.
Is it though?

Tiote is fair enough, but anyone with even a passing interest in football outside the Premier League (as you would hope even the worst professional scout would have) would have been fully aware of Cabaye, Ba, Santon and Ben Arfa. All of them international players with experience of playing in the Champions League.

I would say it is more of a philosophy that they are prepared to get the players in but letting them know they will not stand in the way if a big club comes in for them after a year or so. So they get good young players in rather cheaply and know they will make a good profit if they leave after a good season or two.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2499 on: January 17, 2012, 11:13:09 PM »
Watching the QPR v MK dons match earlier was very impressed with the don's right back, reminded me a lot of Walker.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2500 on: January 17, 2012, 11:14:35 PM »
How many supporters would have been happy with Pardew as our manager? well okay most would have been if we new who the alternative was. For how many years have we been decrying the lack of cheaper imports, all through the MON years and it looks like we are continuing the process, can we get GH back please even with a dicky heart.

Why?  In his time here, Houllier bought Darren Bent for a small fortune, Kyle Walker, Robert Pires and Jean II Makoun.  His only foray into the foreign league was Makoun who wasn't particularly cheap, or good.  Plus look at all the absolute shite he bought in his latter years at Liverpool.

Pires was acquired because we were desperate for bodies, and he was unattached.

Bent was a good signing. Walker did very well for us and is currently holding down a place in a side with title aspirations.

Makoun is one to argue on, but seven matches isn't really the best of runs to settle in a new league.

Houllier had also earmarked Cabaye for this summer, and he'd have been here now if the manager still was.

I'm not saying Houllier was some kind of transfer market genius, but it's safe to say we wouldnt see that brainless fuckwit Hutton running around for us now if he'd still been in charge.

I'm not arguing that Bent and Walker weren't good signings, just that they're not exactly the sign of a radical transfer genius.  Even that numpty Mazrim has been banging on about Bent for the last five years! ;)

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2501 on: January 17, 2012, 11:24:31 PM »
About 7 years now.


Oh, erm... how dare you!

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2502 on: January 17, 2012, 11:43:20 PM »
Another thing about Newcastle is they sign there players on 5 or 6 year deals.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2503 on: January 18, 2012, 07:50:08 AM »
McLeish asked about transfers (Bent especially...)

Click to start hysteria

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2504 on: January 18, 2012, 08:12:21 AM »
Lazy journalism. Nothing in the article that suggests that Darren Bent or Liverpool were even mentioned in the conversation!

 


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