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Author Topic: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread  (Read 717715 times)

Offline andrew08

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2145 on: January 10, 2012, 02:57:20 PM »
Fonz needs a big goal to kick start his Villa career, as stated earlier it was nearly at blues last year and it was nearly at Stoke. Sometimes that's just the way it is. Goals change games and change a strikers future.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2146 on: January 10, 2012, 02:57:50 PM »
How many managers has Fonz worked under at the Villa? None of them have put much faith in him, so perhaps some are kidding themselves that he's going to be a good player.

Offline Rick_avfc

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2147 on: January 10, 2012, 02:59:04 PM »
Guys, you're forgetting that Keane is only with us for 6 games so there still is a chance for the Fonz to get a look in after he has gone.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2148 on: January 10, 2012, 03:34:23 PM »
How many managers has Fonz worked under at the Villa? None of them have put much faith in him, so perhaps some are kidding themselves that he's going to be a good player.

O'Neill did and publically announced he was going to figure more. Then he left. Before that he was getting cup games and doing well. Houllier used him sparingly but he used him.

Anyway, I judge with my own eyes and I've watched him for years to form my opinion. Not how many times certain managers have played him.
And if I'm kidding myself than I'd rather do that and be sure than just throw him out before he's old enough to shave just because he hasn't broke through at 16 like Rooney. Or because manager x isn't brave enough to play him instead of some useless carthorse.

Villa don't have the luxury of getting rid of potentially very good players I'd say. Fonz is definitely that, even if it doesnt end up working out for him.

Offline pedro25

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2149 on: January 10, 2012, 03:36:49 PM »
I don't think I can be convinced Fonz hasn't had the chances he deserves, McLeish could easily have played a fifth midfielder against Liverpool, guys like Bannan have shown more than Fonz this year, but he chose to give him a chance.  As with Herd, Clark and Albrighton if you take that chance the position is yours until your form dictates you are dropped.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2150 on: January 10, 2012, 03:37:57 PM »
Fonz couldn't be any less effective than Heskey.

Offline Concrete John

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2151 on: January 10, 2012, 03:38:23 PM »
So when would you look to move him on then, Maz?

If he's not doing enough to force his way into the side for the run he needs, then do you drop a better (at the moment at least) player to give him a go or keep giving him new contracts until he does get the chance?
« Last Edit: January 10, 2012, 03:40:04 PM by John M'Zog »

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2152 on: January 10, 2012, 04:18:10 PM »
I thought Delfounso had a decent enough first half against Liverpool, good movement, good first touch, although his final ball let him down a couple of times. There does seem to be something missing from him though, perhaps a bit of urgency.  He just seems a bit too languid in his approach to get by in the hurley burley of the PL. 

Also in that game I kept a close eye on Weimann when he came on for the last 10 or 15 minutes. His movement was non-stop, he made some great runs into dangerous areas and not once was he picked out, indeed no-one even appeared to see him let alone try to play him in.  Not even Bannan who is meant to have a good eye for these things. I felt sorry for the lad although we were genreally woeful in that second half and he wasn't alone in wasting his effort.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2153 on: January 10, 2012, 05:27:39 PM »
the recent loan signings by us and now Pires joining Henry at Arsenal, plus Scholes coming out of retirement at Man U suggests in some ways that the January transfer window is pretty much fucked for all but the super rich or super desperate. Clubs will be held to ransom, and in many ways short term deals look that much more appealing. As the window progesses buying clubs will push the panic button, and clubs that actually want to sell and are holding off for a big offer also get desperate as they know they have to replace the exiting player.

UEFA are better off just having a transfer window that opens on July 1st and ends Feb 28th/29th, kind of like is used to be. The current system, in my opinon is crap and makes clubs do things they would never normally do, or want to do. The only real beneficiaries are agents, and players making fat signing bonuses.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2154 on: January 10, 2012, 05:56:48 PM »
Discussing James Collins' hoofball tendencies and the Delfouneso's prospects.  I thought I was reading the transfer thread.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2155 on: January 10, 2012, 06:36:15 PM »
the recent loan signings by us and now Pires joining Henry at Arsenal, plus Scholes coming out of retirement at Man U suggests in some ways that the January transfer window is pretty much fucked for all but the super rich or super desperate. Clubs will be held to ransom, and in many ways short term deals look that much more appealing. As the window progesses buying clubs will push the panic button, and clubs that actually want to sell and are holding off for a big offer also get desperate as they know they have to replace the exiting player.
Its a mess your right. Get rid of it now. It does not exist elsewhere in life so why should it exist in football?
UEFA are better off just having a transfer window that opens on July 1st and ends Feb 28th/29th, kind of like is used to be. The current system, in my opinon is crap and makes clubs do things they would never normally do, or want to do. The only real beneficiaries are agents, and players making fat signing bonuses.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2012, 06:39:55 PM by Ian J »

Offline Villanation

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2156 on: January 10, 2012, 07:31:35 PM »
Guys, you're forgetting that Keane is only with us for 6 games so there still is a chance for the Fonz to get a look in after he has gone.

Is that all, so on top of the 400k fee does he receive a wage or does he get paid per appearance. 

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2157 on: January 10, 2012, 08:25:38 PM »
Guys, you're forgetting that Keane is only with us for 6 games so there still is a chance for the Fonz to get a look in after he has gone.

Is that all, so on top of the 400k fee does he receive a wage or does he get paid per appearance. 

I assumed that the 400k was the total we were paying including all fees, wages, etc etc.
I'd like to see us recoup a small chunk of that by getting the Fonz and weiman out on loan for the same period.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2158 on: January 10, 2012, 08:38:25 PM »
Amazing how much intricate knowledge of a yet to be agreed contract so many people seem to have.

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Re: January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread
« Reply #2159 on: January 10, 2012, 09:01:45 PM »
The last 2 games I've watched, it's only took us 7 seconds from kick off for Collins to just whack the ball forward, totally losing posession.

Well is that the player making atrocious decisions or is it a game plan, hit it for Gabby to try to get on the end early on whilst the opposition are not ready early on. I think SGT had a similar tactic as his game plan from Kick off, at least for England.

 


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