January Transfer Speculation (or lack of) Thread

[Concrete John]

I'll take your word for it John. My point is if you add in all the players that were signed,  and have been let go since DOL left then it does seem shocking we're roughly back where we started in terms of squad size and quality

Not really when you consider the biggest signings, bar Bent, have all been sold on again for profits, with that money then not being re-invested.  By that I'm thinking of the likes of Ash, Milner and Downing.  Had we just spent that money again we'd be in a much stronger position.   

[Greg N'Ash]

I'll take your word for it John. My point is if you add in all the players that were signed,  and have been let go since DOL left then it does seem shocking we're roughly back where we started in terms of squad size and quality

Not really when you consider the biggest signings, bar Bent, have all been sold on again for profits, with that money then not being re-invested.  By that I'm thinking of the likes of Ash, Milner and Downing.  Had we just spent that money again we'd be in a much stronger position.   

but you're talking an original investment of what 30m in those three? Add up the other names and their cost. That's where the real money has been wasted.

[JUAN PABLO]

 Aston Villa are keen on bringing in Keith Andrews from Blackburn on a free transfer. people

Bruno Ecuele Manga is another player been mentioned in the Sunday Star

[PaulWinch again]

Aston Villa are keen on bringing in Keith Andrews from Blackburn on a free transfer. people

Bruno Ecuele Manga is another player been mentioned in the Sunday Star

If the top one is true, we may as well give up.

[Chris Jameson]

Not had a read through this thread but has the possibility of taking Kieron Dyer on loan for the rest of the season from QPR been mentioned?

[JUAN PABLO]

GHOU has seriously lost it since his illness

Gerard Houllier is tipping Kenny Dalglish to take Liverpool back into the Champions League this season and win the league in 2013.

[JUAN PABLO]

Not had a read through this thread but has the possibility of taking Kieron Dyer on loan for the rest of the season from QPR been mentioned?

ha ha     very good Chris

[Concrete John]

I'll take your word for it John. My point is if you add in all the players that were signed,  and have been let go since DOL left then it does seem shocking we're roughly back where we started in terms of squad size and quality

Not really when you consider the biggest signings, bar Bent, have all been sold on again for profits, with that money then not being re-invested.  By that I'm thinking of the likes of Ash, Milner and Downing.  Had we just spent that money again we'd be in a much stronger position.   

but you're talking an original investment of what 30m in those three? Add up the other names and their cost. That's where the real money has been wasted.

Not sure what point you're getting at?  I'm trying to evaluate the value of our present squad and what we should therefore be expecting from them.

[CJ]

Aston Villa are keen on bringing in Keith Andrews from Blackburn on a free transfer. people

Bruno Ecuele Manga is another player been mentioned in the Sunday Star

If the top one is true, we may as well give up.

Absolutely. A 31 year old so poor he can't even get into a struggling Blackburn side and is on loan to Ipswich (thanks Wiki). If that's the level of player we're looking at the bar has been set at limbo level.

[peckvillajunior]

Kris Boyd has apparently released himself from his contract with the Turkish club he was at. Wouldn't be massively surpirsed if we made a move

[timeoutbigbar]

Craig Gardener back on loan would not in any way surprise me....

I'd hate to see that c*nt wearing our shirt again.

[TheSandman]

Not even McLeish would be daft enough to sign Boyd and Andrews. Both are terrible.

[Greg N'Ash]

I'll take your word for it John. My point is if you add in all the players that were signed,  and have been let go since DOL left then it does seem shocking we're roughly back where we started in terms of squad size and quality

Not really when you consider the biggest signings, bar Bent, have all been sold on again for profits, with that money then not being re-invested.  By that I'm thinking of the likes of Ash, Milner and Downing.  Had we just spent that money again we'd be in a much stronger position.   

but you're talking an original investment of what 30m in those three? Add up the other names and their cost. That's where the real money has been wasted.

Not sure what point you're getting at?  I'm trying to evaluate the value of our present squad and what we should therefore be expecting from them.

the point i'm getting at is in the short space of time from the end of DOL's reign to currently, many many millions has been invested in players and wages and we're not much better off for it, if at all. just the money spent on Davies, Sidwell, Warnock, Heskey, MFH,  and Makoun, about 30m, would probably supply a first team for one of our rivals in the mediocrity league. And you could name another 6 players bought during that time that cost similar that were as pointless. And probably another 6.

[PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt]

Bent to QPR
Cuellar to Rangers with Davis coming the other way.

[JJ-AV]

Bent to QPR
Cuellar to Rangers with Davis coming the other way.

I can see Bent going to QPR. Perhaps Liverpool too if they can shift Carrol.