How high will the dead black cat bounce?

[Davey B]

  Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

[Dave Cooper please]

Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

It was Blackburn.

[Somniloquism]

Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

It was Blackburn.

Yep, beat Wigan, Bolton and Norwich as well and you can then say you have a great manager.

[Davey B]

Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

It was Blackburn.

I know, but under Bruce our heads would have dropped after conceding, we would have capitulated and lost. Wigan, Wolves, to name but two recent flops! Big, big difference in our team today, even though Blackburn's gameplan was to sit back and absorb our pressure, rightly thinking we would be toothless, we still outplayed them, and i saw a huge improvement in confidence levels! We'll be ok, still plenty work to be done mind, but we aren't going down now in my opinion, MON worked his magic today, Bruce outcasts Bramble & Kilgallon brought into the side, McClean given his debut as sub, very exciting upon his entrance into the fray! Very pleased, only Blackburn or not, the signs are glowing positivity around us now, and thats the important thing for us! Onwards and upwards ........ 

[Davey B]

Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

It was Blackburn.

Yep, beat Wigan, Bolton and Norwich as well and you can then say you have a great manager.

After seeing the change around us today, i already know we have a great manager! 

[ozzjim]

Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

It was Blackburn.

Yep, beat Wigan, Bolton and Norwich as well and you can then say you have a great manager.

After seeing the change around us today, i already know we have a great manager! 

Come back in 3 years. You got very, very lucky today.

[A|C]

I'd still rather have MON over what we've got now, whatever his bad points were and I'll admit there were a few.  We did at least win games, we may have played shit but we did win, now we play shit and get beaten.

I think the Black Ctas will do well and we'll all look on green with envy.

[Davey B]

Fantastic stuff! Played them off the park!

HA'WAY THE LADS! 

It was Blackburn.

Yep, beat Wigan, Bolton and Norwich as well and you can then say you have a great manager.

After seeing the change around us today, i already know we have a great manager! 

Come back in 3 years. You got very, very lucky today.

We gave away a very soft goal, and kept going. We were dominating a very defensive "only Blackburn" in a way i haven't witnessed us do to a team since the Peter Ried era! The two goals were great, Vaughan's was a corker. Without a doubt, they absorbed most of what we threw at them, but it was a better than average performance from a previously confidence sapped poor team, where our "luck" today was more than deserved. As a mackem, i would have felt robbed with only a point today.  We worked hard today, and the biggest thing was that after conceding, we didn't give in / fold / capitulate, like under Bruce! Our luck is MON now being in charge Ozzjim, thats the difference in the team! He has stated he wants to be here for a long time, so I can't wait to see where he has us in three seasons, i honestly can't!

[Rigadon]

Davey, he;s a good manager who will restore a bit of pride.  The fact you'll reach 7th or 8th and that'll be that isn't what you want to hear tonight. But it's what will happen. 

In three seasons you'll be 6th or 7th and feeling somewhat disillusioned. 

[Dave]

The fact you'll reach 7th or 8th and that'll be that isn't what you want to hear tonight. But it's what will happen. 

In three seasons you'll be 6th or 7th and feeling somewhat disillusioned. 

Wouldn't that be better than Sunderland have done for forty or so years?

I imagine that it's exactly what Davey wants to hear.

[hawkeye]

Davey, Great Manager? I would reserve that title for Shankley Ferguson Clough Saunders Ramsey.
He ranks along side Allardyce Hoddle Hodgkinson maybe Moyes.
If he was great he would have done a lot better than 6th place with the resources he had at his disposal. Also Great Managers dont walk out on a Club in the way he did.

[Davey B]

Davey, he;s a good manager who will restore a bit of pride.  The fact you'll reach 7th or 8th and that'll be that isn't what you want to hear tonight. But it's what will happen. 

In three seasons you'll be 6th or 7th and feeling somewhat disillusioned.

I understand where you are coming from Rigadon! I hope and pray that one day i can actually be "spoiled" enough by my beloved Sunderland to be actually disillusioned in that manner! As someone has mentioned on a thread on here, we are still regarded as a bit of a yoyo club, so the disillusionment has been of quite a bit different nature for us! One serious trophy in my lifetime when to be truthfull I was too young to even understand what it was all about! I remember despite my second team affection for them, watching Villa more so in the early 80's, on TV with envy! Peter Withe, Gary Shaw, Tony Morley, winning game after game, trophies, domestic and European, in style, a lovely ground, fantastic strip, wishing one day i could see Sunderland do that. Sunderland then even changed their strips from the Red n White stripes to the nightmare and effeminate Le Coq Sportif pyjama strip, white shirt, red pin stripes, with very pinkish red satin type shorts. I still cringe thinking about that strip. It was the first Sunderland kit i refused to buy. That's disillusion!

[Davey B]

The fact you'll reach 7th or 8th and that'll be that isn't what you want to hear tonight. But it's what will happen. 

In three seasons you'll be 6th or 7th and feeling somewhat disillusioned. 

Wouldn't that be better than Sunderland have done for forty or so years?

I imagine that it's exactly what Davey wants to hear.

Spot on Dave, 7th place in today's competition would be an achievement in itself! For us anyway!

[Dave]

It would be an achievement for all but six of the teams in the entire football league in the current climate.

[Davey B]

Davey, Great Manager? I would reserve that title for Shankley Ferguson Clough Saunders Ramsey.
He ranks along side Allardyce Hoddle Hodgkinson maybe Moyes.
If he was great he would have done a lot better than 6th place with the resources he had at his disposal. Also Great Managers dont walk out on a Club in the way he did.

Hi Hawkeye,
i think the managers in your first sentence are "extraordinary" managers to be honest, (should include Paisley and Busby aswell), but i take your point as regards to the others. We have had a lot of false dawns up here, the worst one for me was under Lawrie McMenemy. So when i class MON as a great manager, compared to some of the dross we have suffered over 4 decades of my life, Martin O'Neill to me, though he is not up against a great deal of competition, well, he is, a great manager. 

And for the record, in my opinion, not appointing Brian Clough as Sunderland gaffer when he wanted the job, is the biggest mistake in our clubs history.