I've said this before, I'll say it again. The only important thing on a Villa shirt is the Villa badge. If you're a fan who can be persuaded to part with the thick end of £50 every 12 months for a piece of polyester that some far eastern sweatshop will have knocked up for £2.50, you'll continue to do so regardless of which brand logo is stitched on the other side of the chest.
Macron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.
Quote from: Summers on January 14, 2012, 10:16:03 AMMacron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.This.The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.
Quote from: Ad@m on January 14, 2012, 10:42:56 AMQuote from: Summers on January 14, 2012, 10:16:03 AMMacron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.This.The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market. 'Proud Future', my arse.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 14, 2012, 10:46:50 AMQuote from: Ad@m on January 14, 2012, 10:42:56 AMQuote from: Summers on January 14, 2012, 10:16:03 AMMacron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.This.The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market. 'Proud Future', my arse. And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?
Quote from: Ad@m on January 14, 2012, 10:50:03 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 14, 2012, 10:46:50 AMQuote from: Ad@m on January 14, 2012, 10:42:56 AMQuote from: Summers on January 14, 2012, 10:16:03 AMMacron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.This.The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market. 'Proud Future', my arse. And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?It is actually. All kit manufacturers have templates which they tweak here and there, and Nike are no different. I couldn't give a damn that some obscure French team wore a similar kit, but I did care that we played in a kit that was manufactured by a firm who supply some of the best clubs in the world. Now we've been downgraded to wear kits from a shoddy looking company who create kits for lower league clubs who look like they bought their shirts off the shelves at Sports Direct. That's a big come down no matter how you try and dress it up.
I can't believe that people would happily stay with Nike because it's Nike. Every kit they've made us has been badmouthed on here, which is fair enough - but when you consider they fucked up making a kit on time, didn't even bother producing 'keeper shirts for us to buy, and haven't done ANYTHING original for us.. it's a fucking joke.Nike have mistreated OUR CLUB. If Macron are willing to treat us better, and actually put some work into our partnership we should be completely behind this deal. I don't care if previous kits have looked tacky, they're a company on the rise in the sport, and are trying to find better teams to work with - like us.I'd rather have a company who is proud of working with us and treats us right, than a company who can't even bothered to get us original shirts, on time, and brought out properly.
Quote from: saunders_heroes on January 14, 2012, 10:59:55 AMQuote from: Ad@m on January 14, 2012, 10:50:03 AMQuote from: saunders_heroes on January 14, 2012, 10:46:50 AMQuote from: Ad@m on January 14, 2012, 10:42:56 AMQuote from: Summers on January 14, 2012, 10:16:03 AMMacron would be miles better for us than Nike. For one we might get kits on time, kits that aren't copied from the French division, goalkeeper kits, and a better training range.To put it simply, we'll get a company that is AWARE of our existence. Nike clearly aren't. Couldn't care less about the prestige of the name. They've still treated us like shit.This.The way Nike have behaved with us is nothing short of shambolic. If Macron (whoever they are) had done that, everyone would've been on here saying that it's because we've got a shit shirt manufacturer and it was always going to happen, blah, blah, blah. Because it's Nike, that gets ignored and everyone wants to keep them for the name.No name is bigger than Aston Villa - not Nike, not Macron, not anyone. If we get more money and a better service out of Macron because they actually want to work with Aston Villa then let's do it.All well and good, but their kits are shite, and the designs are tacky and downmarket. It's like the tat you'd buy in a rag market. 'Proud Future', my arse. And being given a blatant rip-off of a French team's shirt from last year is a better alternative is it?It is actually. All kit manufacturers have templates which they tweak here and there, and Nike are no different. I couldn't give a damn that some obscure French team wore a similar kit, but I did care that we played in a kit that was manufactured by a firm who supply some of the best clubs in the world. Now we've been downgraded to wear kits from a shoddy looking company who create kits for lower league clubs who look like they bought their shirts off the shelves at Sports Direct. That's a big come down no matter how you try and dress it up.And the fact Nike decided we weren't important enough to get our kits out on time? Or that THEY downgraded what they'd make for us in terms of training gear AND replica kits?
I already have. I'd still take them over Nike.Are they my first choice? No, they're not. But I'd take them over Nike every time.
Couldn't care who it is.