Jenas

[Risso]

It clearly is an awful deal for us but I've a feeling it's the standard terms.

Think of it if we were on the receiving end, having to pay the wages of a payer who we'd loaned out for the season but who then got crocked and came back. We'd be feeling we'd got the worst of it.

Maybe, but taking somebody on with a bad injury record, who was already injured is asking for trouble really.

[taylorsworkrate]

Why, at a time when we were supposedly trying to cut the wage bill, would we agree to pay Jermaine Jenas 45k a week in the first place?

[Barca 2011]

Unbelievably bad business by whoever negotiated this,
especially when you consider Jenas' track record for injuries!!

[KevinGage]

It clearly is an awful deal for us but I've a feeling it's the standard terms.

Think of it if we were on the receiving end, having to pay the wages of a payer who we'd loaned out for the season but who then got crocked and came back. We'd be feeling we'd got the worst of it.

Like with Stephen Ireland last season?

Played about one game, came back to us injured and we paid his wages.
Newcastle were actually cute enough (or we were so desperate to pack Ireland off)  that they struck a deal whereby they would only pay his wages if he played -and even then not even the full amount.

[tarzansbrother]

It clearly is an awful deal for us but I've a feeling it's the standard terms.

Think of it if we were on the receiving end, having to pay the wages of a payer who we'd loaned out for the season but who then got crocked and came back. We'd be feeling we'd got the worst of it.

I wonder who's pay Makouns wages. Wouldn't surprise me with our current circus that we are paying them and not the Greek club

[taylorsworkrate]

Seen as we are still paying his wages we should still make use of him. 

He could organise the Christmas party, or do the head counts for away matches. 

[TopDeck113]

This whole thing is an all too predictable fuck up.  Spurs must be laughing their heads off.  We take on loan a player known for little else than his time on the treatment table, quelle surprise he gets a long term injury and we end up paying through the nose. 

Another example of the negotiating talent we currently have in charge at the Villa. Contemptible.

[brian green]

Problem is though Chris I very much imagine Spurs have got insurance in place to cover terminal injury to a player's career.   If he goes back completely knackered they can claim.   If he goes back and plays again we have picked up the tab for his rehabilitation.   Are we good at wasting money.  Houllier got millions in compensation and so did Small Heath while O"Neill was boasting that he did not break his contract with Villa and we cannot even put our side of the story because presumably the payment of compo confirms that he was the wronged party.

We do not have the proverbial pot to piss in for new players but we are a bottomless pit of money to waste on keeping people schtumm.

[PaulWinch again]

Problem is though Chris I very much imagine Spurs have got insurance in place to cover terminal injury to a player's career.   If he goes back completely knackered they can claim.   If he goes back and plays again we have picked up the tab for his rehabilitation.   Are we good at wasting money.  Houllier got millions in compensation and so did Small Heath while O"Neill was boasting that he did not break his contract with Villa and we cannot even put our side of the story because presumably the payment of compo confirms that he was the wronged party.

We do not have the proverbial pot to piss in for new players but we are a bottomless pit of money to waste on keeping people schtumm.

Sums it up very nicely Brian and it demonstrates what an utter shambles we are as a club from the top.

[SoccerHQ]

It clearly is an awful deal for us but I've a feeling it's the standard terms.

Think of it if we were on the receiving end, having to pay the wages of a payer who we'd loaned out for the season but who then got crocked and came back. We'd be feeling we'd got the worst of it.

Yep that happened with Ireland last season.

Doh!

[tarzansbrother]

Ireland,Jenas,Given, and the next crock we buy is .................... Is Kieron Dyer available? Oh no he's injured.

[Chris Smith]

It clearly is an awful deal for us but I've a feeling it's the standard terms.

Think of it if we were on the receiving end, having to pay the wages of a payer who we'd loaned out for the season but who then got crocked and came back. We'd be feeling we'd got the worst of it.

Maybe, but taking somebody on with a bad injury record, who was already injured is asking for trouble really.

It is, don't get me wrong I don't think in any way shape or form it was a good deal. I was just trying to think of why it might happen.

[brian green]

The odd thing is that football clubs do not seem to insure themselves for incidents such as Jenas's long term injury.

When the only half decent horse I have ever owned did a tendon in her fourth race I was offered by the bloodstock insurance company the choice of taking a payoff and never racing her again or two years of veterinary treatment.   I took the money.

[PeterWithe]

We can't have paid a loan fee to get ourselves into such a one sided deal? please tell me that. I want to believe that there are people at Villa who know their arse from their elbow but they are making it so difficult recently.

[OzVilla]

As has been said if you play with fire you get burned.  The chances of Jenas staying injury free for the rest of the season were practically zero so you'd have hoped that his injury record might have made whoever negotiated the deal think about having certain clauses inserted - afterall, if he's stayed fit we'd have got a decent player confident and back up to speed for Spurzz, just like we did with Walker.

I hate who we've become so small time we are now a nursery club for the likes of Spurzz.  But that's where we are shopping at the moment - cast off and crocks department.  I'm totally sick of seeing us get mugged off now.  When will someone in our Club show some nous and leadership.