Jenas

[Holte L2]

What about Stephen bloody Ireland. Throw him in a midfield off

Albrighton. Ireland Bannan. N'zogbia

Or we get Makoun back from Olympiakos

[Compass]

Let's never forget that Jenas, Nzogbia and Hutton were all offered up as compensation for the loss of Downing and Young. All 3 have been dreadful disasters.

I still think N'Zgobia was a good buy, but the money is wasted if AM isn't playing to his strengths. Jenas was a loan so I'm not too bothered about him.

But Hutton? What was he thinking considering Herd was fantastic against Wolves at RB. Hutton isn't even very good. That's about the same level of quality I expect him to buy in Jan. He'll leave us with a terrible legacy. Randy, don't waste your money by backing him. It'll be cheaper to sack him.

[Chris Smith]

What about Stephen bloody Ireland. Throw him in a midfield off

Albrighton. Ireland Bannan. N'zogbia

There's not a tackle amongst that lot.

[Iago]

Our central midfield pairing at Swansea was Delph and Herd, so I don't know why your using that as an example.

Look at how they were used in that match. Delph was much better under GH in the latter part of last season. AM is ruining the youngsters with his one dimensional style of football.

Look what has happened to Albrighton by over playing him last season. It is good management to give them a couple of games then take them out of the firing line for a bit.

What has happened to Albrighton? A dip in form? Some of our experience players are suffering from the same problem, so that argument does not make sense to me.

Did you see Albrighton's reaction at the Utd game? Marc was smarting, I wonder what Richard Dunne and James Collins were feeling?

I can relate to Marc and the other youngsters.

You're just another who has become a bit obsessed with the manager so have decided that every single thing he does, ever, is wrong.

You are right about the obsession part, but wrong about the object of my obsession. I love and support Aston Villa, my obsession is with the club.

I have praised AM when I had felt he should receive credit. Like his team selection against Utd and signings he made in the summer. I do not have a vendetta against any individual at the club.

Did I want AM as manager? Nope. I did try to embrace his appointment and look to the positive attributes of the man. I expect better from him being here. But he has not delivered so far, and I do not believe he will in the future.

[midnite]

I wish Jenas a speedy recovery. Painful injury and 6 months out. But from a villa point of view I'm glad it was only a loan deal... We'd of been screaming at AM if that was a permanent deal that had back fired.

[Lobsterboy]

A lot of talk on Twitter this morning that we will have to pay Jenas £45,000 a week for the duration of his loan; surely that can't be right?

I know Twitter not the most reliable source but I nearly spat my coffee over the laptop when I read that!

[VillaAlways]

A lot of talk on Twitter this morning that we will have to pay Jenas £45,000 a week for the duration of his loan; surely that can't be right?

I know Twitter not the most reliable source but I nearly spat my coffee over the laptop when I read that!

Daily Mail reporting this too. Faulkner really deserves the sack if this is true

[andyh]

I've said it before
If you sign a crock, you get a crock !

[midnite]

So does that mean Makoun stays off our books for the duration of the loan?

[Mazrim]

If that's true about JJs wages then we are the biggest mugs going.

[teamvillage]

A lot of talk on Twitter this morning that we will have to pay Jenas £45,000 a week for the duration of his loan; surely that can't be right?

I know Twitter not the most reliable source but I nearly spat my coffee over the laptop when I read that!

Daily Mail reporting this too. Faulkner really deserves the sack if this is true

If we're on the hook for the wages, we'd have taken out insurance against long-term injury. I doubt we'll lose millions over this.

[Rick_avfc]

Surely AVFC cant be taht stupid that they wouldn't factor in a clause to say that if a player is injured and is sent back to the parent club, then all paid wages currently being paid by the loanee company will cease?
Well, this is AVFC we are talking about.  You know, the company that defied all protests to hire Mcleish in the first instance

[Merv]

That's surprised me, and not in a good way. Surely there are clauses in a loan agreement about injuries - if the loan is then cancelled because of a season-ending injury, the club shouldn't be required to continue paying the wages instead of the parent club?

We signed Jenas with Achilles problems, now the worst has happened.

But then, this could all be wide of the mark speculation.

[Rick_avfc]

That's surprised me, and not in a good way. Surely there are clauses in a loan agreement about injuries - if the loan is then cancelled because of a season-ending injury, the club shouldn't be required to continue paying the wages instead of the parent club?

We signed Jenas with Achilles problems, now the worst has happened.

But then, this could all be wide of the mark speculation.

Wasn't his first achillies injury sustained after we signed him on loan?  I'm sure it was - although, i could be wrong!

[Merv]

Maybe, you might be right. I know he had a few reported niggles and it never seemed clear what they were, he just seemed to be training, in contention, then suddenly out. Achilles was mentioned but yes, I can't recall whether he'd been bothered by it at Spurs or since joining us.