Randy Lerner - Discuss

[Legion]

If Randy provides free coaches for Bristol Rovers then I think he has regained his credibility.

Why should he? That gesture has already been extended previously.

[kippaxvilla2]

If Randy provides free coaches for Bristol Rovers then I think he has regained his credibility.

Why should he? That gesture has already been extended previously.

Element of tongue firmly in cheek there Lee..

[Legion]

If Randy provides free coaches for Bristol Rovers then I think he has regained his credibility.

Why should he? That gesture has already been extended previously.

Element of tongue firmly in cheek there Lee..

Oops! Sorry.

[brian green]

What happens at the Cleveland Browns has no bearing whatsoever on what happens at Villa Park.   It is a different sport run and operated in a totally different way.   The Browns and the Lerner family go way back.   There is not a cat in hell's chance Randy would ever sell the Browns.   I got the feeling that Randy hoped to build the same sort of bond with Villa but the venom of O'Neill's departure struck me as some sort of tipping point in his relationship with us.

[Risso]

What happens at the Cleveland Browns has no bearing whatsoever on what happens at Villa Park.   It is a different sport run and operated in a totally different way.   

The two Lerner teams are run in the same way: badly.

[Ads]

What happens at the Cleveland Browns has no bearing whatsoever on what happens at Villa Park.   It is a different sport run and operated in a totally different way.   

The two Lerner teams are run in the same way: badly.

That's a bit cheap. The Browns problem is they're in a conference with the equivalent of Man United, Man City and Arsenal.

[pauliewalnuts]

What happens at the Cleveland Browns has no bearing whatsoever on what happens at Villa Park.   It is a different sport run and operated in a totally different way.   

The two Lerner teams are run in the same way: badly.

That's a bit cheap. The Browns problem is they're in a conference with the equivalent of Man United, Man City and Arsenal.

I don't know anything about the NFL, but Randy's record on appointments is pretty rubbish, from what I've read.

[Shrek]

What happens at the Cleveland Browns has no bearing whatsoever on what happens at Villa Park.   It is a different sport run and operated in a totally different way.   The Browns and the Lerner family go way back.   There is not a cat in hell's chance Randy would ever sell the Browns.   I got the feeling that Randy hoped to build the same sort of bond with Villa but the venom of O'Neill's departure struck me as some sort of tipping point in his relationship with us.

You cannot have a relationship when you don't speak or see the fans and don't even bother to watch the team.

[Chris Smith]

What happens at the Cleveland Browns has no bearing whatsoever on what happens at Villa Park.   It is a different sport run and operated in a totally different way.   The Browns and the Lerner family go way back.   There is not a cat in hell's chance Randy would ever sell the Browns.   I got the feeling that Randy hoped to build the same sort of bond with Villa but the venom of O'Neill's departure struck me as some sort of tipping point in his relationship with us.

You cannot have a relationship when you don't speak or see the fans and don't even bother to watch the team.

How many other owners speak with fans?

Is Sheikh Mansour on Picadilly Radio phone ins every week? Does Roman have a pint on the Kings Road before games?

I think it's all a bit of a red herring myself. It's what he does not what he says that matters. The problem is though that once the transfer window shuts their is nothing that an owner can do to influence things. So each week people get a bit more wound up.

[pauliewalnuts]

Saying he's been brought in to deliver mid table football is to miss the point that until recently, we'd not played anyone really decent, and we're currently on a spell with five points from seven games (which isn't midtable form or anything like it), with a lot of tough fixtures ahead of us.

[pauliewalnuts]

I think it's all a bit of a red herring myself. It's what he does not what he says that matters. The problem is though that once the transfer window shuts their is nothing that an owner can do to influence things. So each week people get a bit more wound up.

It's what he does that matters most, you're right, and unfortunately, what he has done for the last year and a bit has been to make a series of really dreadful decisions which have alienated the fans, sapped every ounce of optimism and hope we'd built (and he'd paid for) over four years, and produce a situation now, where we're playing football which - to use an Americanism - stinks out the league.

When he did speak last week, all he did was make the situation even more embarassing, with his stories of his letter from Fergie kept in a safe box and how McLeish is an interesting and nice bloke to talk to. That's all lovely, but his football record in the top flight is dreadful, and he has a reputation for dour, horrible football, which he's brought to Villa.

Maybe you're right, maybe he should just keep shtum and let his actions do the talking. In which case, his actions need to improve prett y sharpish, because there's a justified atmosphere of doom around the club, and it's hard to see it going away soon.

[Chris Smith]

Saying he's been brought in to deliver mid table football is to miss the point that until recently, we'd not played anyone really decent, and we're currently on a spell with five points from seven games (which isn't midtable form or anything like it), with a lot of tough fixtures ahead of us.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

[Iago]

I could careless whether Randy speaks or not. Most of his interviews do not tell us anything about his vision for the club. In his last interview there was only two lines of concrete truth.

I judge people by their actions and decisions. He let us down in June by appointing AM, and he will feel the consequences of that decision in the future.

[pauliewalnuts]

Saying he's been brought in to deliver mid table football is to miss the point that until recently, we'd not played anyone really decent, and we're currently on a spell with five points from seven games (which isn't midtable form or anything like it), with a lot of tough fixtures ahead of us.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

And lost at home to 13th place West Brom, drawn with 16th and 17th placed Fulham and Sunderland, 14th placed Swansea and 15th placed Wolves.

In the process, only Blackburn and Stoke have fewer successful passes than us, only Stoke have had fewer shots than us.

Five points from the last seven games, and with a dreadful run of fixtures still to come. What's the trajectory there, do you reckon?

[Clampy]

Saying he's been brought in to deliver mid table football is to miss the point that until recently, we'd not played anyone really decent, and we're currently on a spell with five points from seven games (which isn't midtable form or anything like it), with a lot of tough fixtures ahead of us.

We've drawn with 6th placed Newcastle, 11th placed QPR and 8th placed Everton and beaten 10th placed Norwich. Mid table teams, mid table results.

And shocking football to go with it.