Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

I think this is the first time I can remember when I've been embarrassed to be a Villa fan. I've always defending us when people have criticised us, but at the minute there is no defence.

Have to say, you are right.

This is exactly the criticism his Blues side got last year, and exactly how their fans felt. He's making us a carbon copy of them.

[Compass]

I think this is the first time I can remember when I've been embarrassed to be a Villa fan. I've always defending us when people have criticised us, but at the minute there is no defence.

There isn't. And it's becoming evident we're becoming a bad team when we've got the BBC, Guardian etc slagging us off. But they're correct and I hope it makes Randy realise what a cock up he has made.

[PaulWinch again]

He is and as Ozz says, where is Clark? He has massive potential and he will want to leave soon, we are practically driving him away. I feel the same will apply to Gardner and other young players if we continue under Mcleish. He has a terrible record for blooding young players.

[bilsim]

Like people have said before, it's embarrassing to be a Villa fan at the moment. Considering the fact we have a core of internationals and two highly rated strikers, McLeish should at least have the guts to get us out playing. I wouldn't mind losing 4-0 today if we'd shown some fight and tried to attack, but the game was over before it began, the 1-0 scoreline flatters us.

[Compass]

It's interesting how Paul Faulkner said we have a good academy, yet him and Lerner hired McLeish who has no qualities in blooding youngsters. How on earth did he pass the interview for that if you forget everything else for a second? It just defines all logic. Come on, someone tell me how? Another negative point about McLeish's appointment.

I just wish there was a way of getting Lerner or Faulkner to do a proper interview. Not that spoon fed interview the other day. A proper one where it would be a few different fans bringing up a compliation of legitmate points on why McLeish was the right choice. There's no way they would be able to answer them all properly. The whole thing is a farce.

[Stu]

I'm happy to put money on Sunderland finishing above us. They have a manager, we have a useless inept tactical blackhole.

And when Sunderland pitch up at VP, watch their team show determination, a will to not give up, and speed on the counter-attack. 'McLeish is like MON but without the money' has been said by a few people on this board, but really, we all know that is a load of bollocks. Not saying MON was perfect, but there is no way one of his Villa sides would ever be that negative, even if our home form under him was patchy.

[Greg N'Ash]

yeah but think of the fun you can have if your sat near the dug-out when Sunderland play us. Everytime Collins launches a ball into earth orbit or a ball comes off the back of Ivanhoe's head, or Warnock gives a free kick away, you can shout at MON " Oi! you bought him"

[PeterWithesShin]

I think this is the first time I can remember when I've been embarrassed to be a Villa fan. I've always defending us when people have criticised us, but at the minute there is no defence.

Have to say, you are right.

This is exactly the criticism his Blues side got last year, and exactly how their fans felt. He's making us a carbon copy of them.

As I said earlier in the thread, where I was sat in the Upper Trinity there was a lot of day trippers in their half Villa half Manure scarves nearby, many of them Japanese and Italian. It was obvious they were laughing at how we were playing and taking the piss as we hoofed it yet again or Bannan tried yet another Hollywood pass that went nowhere near a claret and blue shirt. It was fucking humiliating.

[Greg N'Ash]

bannan was bad tonight i thought. stood out in fact.

[PaulWinch again]

I thought Herd was poor as well, not particularly picking on him but I'm not sure about him being a guaranteed starter.

[taylorsworkrate]

I thought Herd was poor as well, not particularly picking on him but I'm not sure about him being a guaranteed starter.

I'm not overly sold on him full stop.  He works reasonably hard, but his passing and technical ability looks nowhere near premier league standard (Fits in quite well at the moment in fairness).

[PaulWinch again]

I thought Herd was poor as well, not particularly picking on him but I'm not sure about him being a guaranteed starter.

I'm not overly sold on him full stop.  He works reasonably hard, but his passing and technical ability looks nowhere near premier league standard (Fits in quite well at the moment in fairness).

I was watching the game with a friend and he did say other than athleticism he doesn't see what he brings to us.

[PeterWithesShin]

He's a cheap NRC is the way I look at it. Runs around a lot and gets stuck in, but can't do much with the ball when he does win it. Maybe he will learn to be more composed on the ball as he gains experience but I can't see him being a long term top flight player if i'm honest.

[VancouverLion]

Disgraceful performance and an embarrassment  to the club! Right now we're an absolute shambles, clueless in leadership from top to bottom. I really fear for us, bright future my arse!!

[Shoody]

Will be interesting in the next match how we line up, no Jenas, no Gardner we will probably either have

     Herd Petrov
Marc Bannan Gabby
          Bent

but I would quite like to try and have something different,

                Guzan
Cuellar Dunne Collins Warnock
           Herd Petrov
   Bannan  Fonz   Gabby
                Bent

Think Fonz would offer more than Heskey and if need be he can still use his head to do Emiles party trick 'The really shit, misplaced flick-on'