Aston Villa v Manchester United Post-Match Thread

[Legion]

Anyone know what N'Zogbia's done. breach of club discipline i heard...tried to pass it in training?

Chuckles. Failure to attend for some sort of test, I believe.

[Rigadon]

Difficult to know if this is an over reaction to another white flag performance, but as somebody who supported the AM appointment and expected him to be 'our Moyes' I think I was wrong.  Nice guy, speaks / means well.  He is never going to get us playing above our current level. 

Utd are average this year.  We didn't have a go.  We surrendered again. 

He's gotta go.

[gervilla]

Anyone know what N'Zogbia's done. breach of club discipline i heard...tried to pass it in training?

I heard it was a lot more serious than that.

He tried passing it forward to a bloke wearing the same colour shirt as him.

There is no place for that at our club under the current regime. Insubordination of the highest order. Get rid.

[Niall]

We are absolutely dreadful at the minute, probably play the worst football in the premiership. I have been prepared to give mcleish a chance as he's inherited a squad that's been gutted by Lerner's cost cutting, but my god the last few games have been abysmal, pathetic shite - gutless, clueless, just useless.
Can he not see Bent isolated on his own up front does not work, how bad does hutton have to be to get dropped? dunne looks like he couldn't care less and sorry, although he may get stuck in, Herd is not a premiership midfielder - how many times a game does he lose possession?

I used to get nervous before a Villa game, now I'm getting apathetic.
Randy Lerner's strategy - take a team that flirted with relegation, sell its best players, don't replace them, flog half of the remaining squad, then appoint a manager who's been relegated twice. Genius

[Lizz]

I don't have the energy to be negative tonight, so I'll be as positive as I can.

We are completely inept in almost every way.

^^

Off out for the night, 40 tomorrow!

Happy birthday Risso. I turned 39 today. Happy fucking birthday to both of us.

Happy birthday to 2 fellow Sagittarians.

Not long back from the game. Nowt new to say.

Went in the club shop beforehand. Amazed how long the queues were to buy Villa merchandise, given the current situation, though think there may have been 20% off everything.

[Irish villain]

It's going to be a winter of discontent.

[brian green]

Just got home.   Very disheartening display all round.   That was one of the poorest Man U sides we have seen for many years at Villa Park and we treated them like Barcelona.

The three moments which sum it all up for me were Collins shrugging his shoulders and flapping his arms about when he was included in a passing movement but chose to pass the ball back to Shay Given then the same player again included in a string of passes side footing the ball high in the air and straight on to the head of a Man U player then the cherry on the cake was Heskey with a clear shot on goal in the box putting the ball out for a throw in and managing to fall over in the process.

It is so massively infuriating because the problem is so obvious.   We can all see it but the manager is blind to it.   We have to pass the ball along the ground to one of our own players.   We have to pass from defence through the midfield and feed Gabby and Darren Bent on the ground, in the channels.  NOT over the midfield to non existent target men.

Collins, Warnock and Hutton are out of their depth in the premiership and Dunne is not a lot better.

[hawkeye]

Just got back afer a long drive, i wont be doing it again any time soon, it took 75 minutes for us to have an attempt on target. I have seen enough of Mcleish football to know that he hasnt got a clue. Its pretty obvious that standing back and watching teams play is not going to win football matches or provide any form of entertainment. Do they really think that people are going to pay good money to watch this crap?

[villa `cross the mersey]

I said to those around me today that if Heskey comes on I am going home - he did and I did !
 
Coming down for the Liverpool game as it is a birthday treat for junior  - but as for the rest of the season ...I really can`t be arsed.

Earlier I thought some posters were being a little over the top in suggesting that the ginger one would take us down.

Now it looks quite conceivable.

I am beginning to despair of the running of our club ......it appears  a shambles right now.

[Legion]

Apart from that shot at the end, I thought Heskey did well.

[gervilla]

It's going to be a winter of discontent.

And spring, and summer.....

[Mazrim]

I'll try and keep this as concise as possible so will use the first three terms that enter my head.

Cat herding.
Turgid.
Shit sandwich.

[Greg N'Ash]

I thought the mancs were very poor overall. I don't know if that was our general shiteness rubbing off on them or they just needed something to raise their game against that didn't materialise. One thing for sure, AM needs some money, even more so with Jenas and Given out.

[Billy Walker]

Scott Murray on the Guardian minute-by-minute: "That was possibly the worst game of football ever played. No blame attached to United, who did what they had to do, away from home. Villa, however, were nothing short of an ambition-free disgrace. Premier League football isn't cheap, and their fans deserve better entertainment than that. The home fans - the ones who could be bothered to stay until the end - boo their team off. To repeat a question from the first half: I wonder how long this Alex McLeish business will last?"

And that's a neutral. Says it all really.

We are getting absolutely slated on Premier League TV and rightly so. I could forgive us if Spursaway was a one off but today confirmed it wasn't. Ferguson must love us, his players will be fresh for the CL game in the week, they never had to go out of second gear today.

That's why Fergie recommends his stooges to other clubs - he knows they haven't got the bottle to actually put up a fight against him.  Was Randy really that naive to actually listen to him?  It's unbelievable really.

[Walmley_Villa]

It's been like recommending Harold Shipman to Good Hope Hospital so far..