Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[pauliewalnuts]

I genuinely and honestly think Swansea will show us up on Sunday - they look the complete opposite to us. Well drilled at the back, disciplined, vibrant, mobile, playing to their strengths.

I remember some very similar things being said about Nowrich before we played them.

Norwich were abysmal at the back.

You can only beat what is in front of you, but they made it very, very easy for us.

[eastie]

Swansea are a decent team and play attractive football-yet again we will be embarrassed on sky tv i fear.

[Concrete John]

More like the Norwich game? You mean getting outplayed for large periods, conceding 2 goals and desperately trying to hold on to a win at home against a team that 2 years ago were in division 3?

Each to their own, but I saw us play well and outplay Norwich more than they outplayed us, but then a defensive error made in a nervy finish.

[Concrete John]

I genuinely and honestly think Swansea will show us up on Sunday - they look the complete opposite to us. Well drilled at the back, disciplined, vibrant, mobile, playing to their strengths.

I remember some very similar things being said about Nowrich before we played them.

Norwich were abysmal at the back.

You can only beat what is in front of you, but they made it very, very easy for us.

Whether they did or not, my point was they were being bigged up on here before the game, as Swansea are now, and we beat them.

[SoccerHQ]

They'll be a tough nut to crack at the Liberty, only Manure have won there so far and that was by a single goal.

Swansea don't score many though and I fancy to nick 1 or 2 on the break.

[Concrete John]

I'm not sayign we will beat them.  In fact, I'll be predicting a 1-1 draw when the pre-match thread comes round. 

[john e]

relegation ?

if you offered me 3 more years of Mcliesh football or relegation and a new manager someone like the fella's at Norwich, Swansea, MK Dons, Bolton, Wigan, Doncaster i'd say hey ho championship here we come and not give a flying toss.

[PeterWithesShin]

More like the Norwich game? You mean getting outplayed for large periods, conceding 2 goals and desperately trying to hold on to a win at home against a team that 2 years ago were in division 3?

Each to their own, but I saw us play well and outplay Norwich more than they outplayed us, but then a defensive error made in a nervy finish.

I saw us get outplayed for half an hour, have less possession and shots on target than a side, as a said, that were a division 3 side 2 years ago.
Was it an exciting game, yes. Was it great seeing us holding on for the last 15 mins, no.
My point is, it was hardly a performance to use as a reference in defence of the manager.

[Concrete John]

More like the Norwich game? You mean getting outplayed for large periods, conceding 2 goals and desperately trying to hold on to a win at home against a team that 2 years ago were in division 3?

Each to their own, but I saw us play well and outplay Norwich more than they outplayed us, but then a defensive error made in a nervy finish.

I saw us get outplayed for half an hour, have less possession and shots on target than a side, as a said, that were a division 3 side 2 years ago.
Was it an exciting game, yes. Was it great seeing us holding on for the last 15 mins, no.
My point is, it was hardly a performance to use as a reference in defence of the manager.

I wasn't - I was using it as a reference to the way Swansea were being made out to be some footballing powerhouse we didn't have a chance against.

[Ryu]

Chico Hamilton III:

--- Quote ---as I expected it would be, it's full of hysterics an hyperbole
--- End quote ---


Yeah, whingeing Villa fans, paying the best part of a hundred quid, taking an afternoon off work to travel to North London on a Monday night before Christmas only to be served up with a pile of fucking rubbish...




I'm not saying you should be happy with the performance, but read the start of this thread back. It's full of block capitals and people saying things like AM is killing the club. How is that not hyperbole?  It seems to me that a lot of people were just waiting for a chance to really lay into Mcleish. But maybe you're right and he is complete shit, but losing away to spurs is hardly the worst thing I've seen a Villa side do so I'm just going to wait and see how we come back from this.

And where did I refer to whingeing Villa fans?  Maybe you have a complex?

[PeterWithesShin]

More like the Norwich game? You mean getting outplayed for large periods, conceding 2 goals and desperately trying to hold on to a win at home against a team that 2 years ago were in division 3?

Each to their own, but I saw us play well and outplay Norwich more than they outplayed us, but then a defensive error made in a nervy finish.

I saw us get outplayed for half an hour, have less possession and shots on target than a side, as a said, that were a division 3 side 2 years ago.
Was it an exciting game, yes. Was it great seeing us holding on for the last 15 mins, no.
My point is, it was hardly a performance to use as a reference in defence of the manager.

I wasn't - I was using it as a reference to the way Swansea were being made out to be some footballing powerhouse we didn't have a chance against.

My first post on the Norwich game was aimed at Ryu who said "and our next game is more like the one against Norwich then I think we should continue to give hime time."

For the record, I think we should give him more time, but using the Norwich game as a reason why probably doesn't help his cause.

[john e]

Chico Hamilton III:

--- Quote ---as I expected it would be, it's full of hysterics an hyperbole
--- End quote ---


Yeah, whingeing Villa fans, paying the best part of a hundred quid, taking an afternoon off work to travel to North London on a Monday night before Christmas only to be served up with a pile of fucking rubbish...




I'm not saying you should be happy with the performance, but read the start of this thread back. It's full of block capitals and people saying things like AM is killing the club. How is that not hyperbole?  It seems to me that a lot of people were just waiting for a chance to really lay into Mcleish. But maybe you're right and he is complete shit, but losing away to spurs is hardly the worst thing I've seen a Villa side do so I'm just going to wait and see how we come back from this.

And where did I refer to whingeing Villa fans?  Maybe you have a complex?

i thought having a complex was the minimal requirement on here ?

[Mazrim]

Ryu, I'm usually one of the first to plead for calm and reason but last night was so incredibly pathetic, lacklustre and hamfisted that there really is no defence of the team. They deserve absolute anything and everything they get and perhaps more besides.

Few expected a result but to be so gutless, lazy and clueless is just unacceptable. I can take anything but that.

[Merv]

I genuinely and honestly think Swansea will show us up on Sunday - they look the complete opposite to us. Well drilled at the back, disciplined, vibrant, mobile, playing to their strengths.

I remember some very similar things being said about Nowrich before we played them.

Yes, I may have been one of those posters who predicted a difficult match. I think that's what we got.

[MarkM]

More like the Norwich game? You mean getting outplayed for large periods, conceding 2 goals and desperately trying to hold on to a win at home against a team that 2 years ago were in division 3?

Each to their own, but I saw us play well and outplay Norwich more than they outplayed us, but then a defensive error made in a nervy finish.

I saw us get outplayed for half an hour, have less possession and shots on target than a side, as a said, that were a division 3 side 2 years ago.
Was it an exciting game, yes. Was it great seeing us holding on for the last 15 mins, no.
My point is, it was hardly a performance to use as a reference in defence of the manager.

I would agree,

I enjoyed the Norwich game, but dreaded the last 15 mins.

We won, but only just and it could have been a draw.

Loosing is one thing, but not trying is another, the team went out with the mentality of:

'Were expecting to loose, but playing for a draw. Lets not sacrifice the subs as we need them for Sunday as we have a chance against Swansea'

Another thing, if the clubs want to attract the fans back, playing like that will NOT do it!