Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[VillaAlways]

Listening to TalkSport makes my blood boil.They don't think we have any right to have any ambition to compete with the likes of Spurs and we should be grateful for where we are now.Unfortunately  the manager and owner think the same too.

[UsualSuspect]

Some of this has got to lie squarely at RL's door.

Houllier was a terrible appointment, dragging a bloke out of virtual retirement with a history heart trouble who we end up having to pay a big wedge of compensation to.

Poaching probably the most negative manager in the PL, doubling his wages and paying big compensation.

AM is showing what I thought all along - he is way out of his depth.

Randy has got himself a fall guy, someone to detract the blame away from himself.

All of the chickens will be home to roost by the end of December

[Concrete John]

Listening to TalkSport makes my blood boil.They don't think we have any right to have any ambition to compete with the likes of Spurs and we should be grateful for where we are now.

We've sold 4 England internationals recently, and not replaced them adequately, so based on that they're probably right.

Putting last night aside for a minute, we have to accept being a mid-table side (and yes, I do think that's where we'll end up) this season.  I just hope it's part of a longterm strategy, but time will tell on that one.

[darren woolley]

I thought that was a terrible performance from us no heart no desire and little effort Collins needs to be dropped and be replaced by Clark the same goes for Heskey he needs dropping I just hope we never play like that again.

[villaparkb6]

Mind, Redknapp made me laugh claiming they could win the league after playing us. Obviously still being wheened off the painkillers

Aim for the stars and you'll land on the moon...

The difference between us and Spurs is they think and act big. In the short term it might not make much of a difference and I used to like the relative lack of hype that surrounds us, but after years of us signing Dunne, Reo-Coker, Ireland and Harewood while they got Gallas, Modric, Van Der Vaart and Berbatov I've started to realise how much of a difference making a noise can make.

That's before we even begin to compare how the two clubs contrast in their methods for identifying and appointing a manager.

JJ-AV........nail on head, end of

[Hookeysmith]

Given - cant really be blamed for anything but must wonder what he has done by coming here

Carlos - PLease put him at centre half instead of the lump that is Collins

Collins - you useless C**T just fuck off

Dunne - At least he tried more than can be said for most

Warnock - got skinned by Lennon a few times but not sure what else he did wrong - not being very good is not his fault

Herd - worked his guts out

Petrov - i actually thought he was not playing as i never heard his name or saw him for most of the game

Hutton - Fuck me i have never seen suck a useless waste of human skin (and thats at RB) in midfield just what the fuck was you thinking AM?

Heskey - what can be said what has not already been said- just fuck off you useless lump

Gabby - only one who liked like it was hurting - he must be so frustrated and if he leaves then that will be it for me

Bent - i know he needs service and he is great at tap ins etc - but his contribution to the game we may as well play with 10 men

Manager - when i saw the team i was gobsmacked - i could not believe how shite it was - he may as well as gone into Spurs dressing room and say "Look lads we will give you the points just dont take the piss with the score"
I agree with a post above  - Ekotto (sp) should have been the basis of AM's team talk to fire them up - not to tell them how to act and play

Cowardly, bottless turgid shit

Team for Sunday:

                             Given
Hutton      Carlos       Dunne       Clark
 
                           Herd

Gabby      Jenas            Petrov                NZogbia

                           Bent

[midnite]

Says something when Mike Ashley signing Pardew looks like an inspired choice!

[Mister E]

Would anyone take houllier back , at least better standard of football.

or should I say "style of football "

Man City away in the FAC?

[Mister E]

McMinge actually ought to take a leaf out the same book obviously having been read by Norwich, Swansea and BarCodes this season: simple football played on the front foot - get it tight at the back and play football through the team ...
which means a complete change in selection to include some ball-playing footballers.

Unfortunately, that is not his style.

[MarkM]

We got what we expected with AM, boring negative hoof ball.

It was said when he was appointed and is now being played out for all to see.

We are now a mirror of the side he left last season

[Ads]

I couldn’t believe the system, the selection, the inability to change it round, the lack of pressing and reluctance to put time in them.

The players are not stupid. They knew what we were going there last night to achieve with that side and a defeatist mindset kicked in.

Appalling.

Sure Spurs are a good side, but they’re nowhere near a tier one team.  Spurs are so open, they gift you opportunities and they’re inept without Van der Vaart.

Why we went with two central players I have no idea, it meant we couldn’t press their midfield and one of either Modric or Van der Vaart was always able to drift off.

What sort of service can the forwards expect with Heskey and Hutton in the wide roles?
Unfathomable and unacceptable.


"Tottenham's a shit hole, you set it on fire!" and "Redknapp, Redknapp, pay your tax!" the ony amusing moments of the night.

And I got pulled for speeding. Booooo to Mondays!

[ktvillan]

Would anyone take houllier back , at least better standard of football.

or should I say "style of football "

Man City away in the FAC?

I'd have Houllier over McLeish any day.  He's a twat and he embarrassed us a few times last year, but the style of football he was aiming at, which shone through at times,  was way better and the players he had reportedly targeted to sign in the summer wouldhave taken us further down the passing game route.  I can put up with a twat if the football is decent to watch and we try to win at least the league games.  Much rather that than the negative, guileless, gutless bullshit served up last night.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

Given - cant really be blamed for anything but must wonder what he has done by coming here

Carlos - PLease put him at centre half instead of the lump that is Collins

Collins - you useless C**T just fuck off

Dunne - At least he tried more than can be said for most

Warnock - got skinned by Lennon a few times but not sure what else he did wrong - not being very good is not his fault

Herd - worked his guts out

Petrov - i actually thought he was not playing as i never heard his name or saw him for most of the game

Hutton - Fuck me i have never seen suck a useless waste of human skin (and thats at RB) in midfield just what the fuck was you thinking AM?

Heskey - what can be said what has not already been said- just fuck off you useless lump

Gabby - only one who liked like it was hurting - he must be so frustrated and if he leaves then that will be it for me

Bent - i know he needs service and he is great at tap ins etc - but his contribution to the game we may as well play with 10 men

Manager - when i saw the team i was gobsmacked - i could not believe how shite it was - he may as well as gone into Spurs dressing room and say "Look lads we will give you the points just dont take the piss with the score"
I agree with a post above  - Ekotto (sp) should have been the basis of AM's team talk to fire them up - not to tell them how to act and play

Cowardly, bottless turgid shit

Team for Sunday:

                             Given
Hutton      Carlos       Dunne       Clark
 
                           Herd

Gabby      Jenas            Petrov                NZogbia

                           Bent

So you say that about Hutton, but then pick him in your team for Sunday..?!?!

I agree with what you said about him, and wouldn't want him anywhere near the first team again. Time for Herd (preferably), or Carlos to come in at RB.
If Jenas, Bannan and Clark (as a minimum) don't come in for Sunday for Hutton, Heskey and Collins it will be pretty depressing.

[Brend'Watkins]

Heskey last night reminded me of being back in primary school.  It was like one of your better players hadn't turned up and you were left with the fat kid who was always willing but everyone knew he could hardly kick the ball , he just make up the numbers, contributed nothing and fell over when the ball came to him.

[lukey27]

I couldn’t believe the system, the selection, the inability to change it round, the lack of pressing and reluctance to put time in them.

The players are not stupid. They knew what we were going there last night to achieve with that side and a defeatist mindset kicked in.

Appalling.

Sure Spurs are a good side, but they’re nowhere near a tier one team.  Spurs are so open, they gift you opportunities and they’re inept without Van der Vaart.

Why we went with two central players I have no idea, it meant we couldn’t press their midfield and one of either Modric or Van der Vaart was always able to drift off.

What sort of service can the forwards expect with Heskey and Hutton in the wide roles?
Unfathomable and unacceptable.


"Tottenham's a shit hole, you set it on fire!" and "Redknapp, Redknapp, pay your tax!" the ony amusing moments of the night.

And I got pulled for speeding. Booooo to Mondays!

As mainly a lurker and occasional poster, you always seem to get it spot on mate. Thought the team selection was generally odd but he's been hung out to dry to a certain extent with the lack of options we have in central midfield. Jenas will walk into that side Sunday.