The people who are saying first time I've doubted him...where have you been? Worse than I expected?? How could that be? Really piss poor 6 defenders, heskey and given leaves 3 players who weren't defensive? Is this what we want people??
Quote from: Compass on November 21, 2011, 10:28:01 PMQuote from: SheffieldVillain on November 21, 2011, 10:23:23 PMYou can moan about McLeish's team selection as much as you want (and to be fair, it was crap), but these are the players now who weren't at fault throughout the Houllier era, and the players who weren't responsible for the turgid crap of the second half of MoN's last season. At what point do Richard Dunne, Stephen Warnock, James Collins and others actually get to shoulder the blame for what is actually their shite performances? You know, in return for their £50k a week, that kind of thing.We have been told in numerous interviews with Dunne, Warnock and Collins that the defensive problems last year were because Houllier made us change things, Houllier was a nasty man, Houllier made us train when we wanted to go for a pint (I might be paraphrasing a little here). So why now that Houllier has gone can't we clear a simple ball from the box without falling over it, and why, every time one of our defenders passes the ball, does it end up with the opposition. Yes, McLeish got things wrong, yes Houllier got things wrong, but the fundamental problem at Villa is that we desperately need to get rid of the core of our squad. I really can't ever remember a Villa team before so packed with so many players I despise.Yet it's McLeish who selects those awful defenders. It's McLeish who convinced Dunne to stay, wants Collins to have an extended contract and bought Hutton into the team. I mean Herd actually got man of the match against Wolves when he was right back, but then he was dropped for Hutton who has been shit ever since he came here. Wtf is that bollocks?It's funny how people defended McLeish because of his defensive traits. Erm...what? Where are they? We're defending worse than we did under Houllier and Houllier didn't really address it becasue these talentless players can't be helped.Man, we should have just kept Houllier. Yes, he was ill, but G Mac who could have done mainly the men coaching where as Houllier could have worked out what we needed to be done to take us forward with his strong pull in the transfer market.OK, so it's MoN's fault for signing them, Houllier's fault for selecting them and McLeish's fault for keeping them. Nothing is ever the players' fault, ever.
Quote from: SheffieldVillain on November 21, 2011, 10:23:23 PMYou can moan about McLeish's team selection as much as you want (and to be fair, it was crap), but these are the players now who weren't at fault throughout the Houllier era, and the players who weren't responsible for the turgid crap of the second half of MoN's last season. At what point do Richard Dunne, Stephen Warnock, James Collins and others actually get to shoulder the blame for what is actually their shite performances? You know, in return for their £50k a week, that kind of thing.We have been told in numerous interviews with Dunne, Warnock and Collins that the defensive problems last year were because Houllier made us change things, Houllier was a nasty man, Houllier made us train when we wanted to go for a pint (I might be paraphrasing a little here). So why now that Houllier has gone can't we clear a simple ball from the box without falling over it, and why, every time one of our defenders passes the ball, does it end up with the opposition. Yes, McLeish got things wrong, yes Houllier got things wrong, but the fundamental problem at Villa is that we desperately need to get rid of the core of our squad. I really can't ever remember a Villa team before so packed with so many players I despise.Yet it's McLeish who selects those awful defenders. It's McLeish who convinced Dunne to stay, wants Collins to have an extended contract and bought Hutton into the team. I mean Herd actually got man of the match against Wolves when he was right back, but then he was dropped for Hutton who has been shit ever since he came here. Wtf is that bollocks?It's funny how people defended McLeish because of his defensive traits. Erm...what? Where are they? We're defending worse than we did under Houllier and Houllier didn't really address it becasue these talentless players can't be helped.Man, we should have just kept Houllier. Yes, he was ill, but G Mac who could have done mainly the men coaching where as Houllier could have worked out what we needed to be done to take us forward with his strong pull in the transfer market.
You can moan about McLeish's team selection as much as you want (and to be fair, it was crap), but these are the players now who weren't at fault throughout the Houllier era, and the players who weren't responsible for the turgid crap of the second half of MoN's last season. At what point do Richard Dunne, Stephen Warnock, James Collins and others actually get to shoulder the blame for what is actually their shite performances? You know, in return for their £50k a week, that kind of thing.We have been told in numerous interviews with Dunne, Warnock and Collins that the defensive problems last year were because Houllier made us change things, Houllier was a nasty man, Houllier made us train when we wanted to go for a pint (I might be paraphrasing a little here). So why now that Houllier has gone can't we clear a simple ball from the box without falling over it, and why, every time one of our defenders passes the ball, does it end up with the opposition. Yes, McLeish got things wrong, yes Houllier got things wrong, but the fundamental problem at Villa is that we desperately need to get rid of the core of our squad. I really can't ever remember a Villa team before so packed with so many players I despise.
McLeish needs to grow a pair of balls and forget about the planks who are dying to jump on his back because he came from the Rags. If he's going to let a few morons make him so defensive, so bloody negative, so scared of losing, he should never have taken the job in the first place.Shape up or ship out.
I've seen more effort from a match fixing Pakastani cricket team than that insipid effort. .
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