Tottenham Hotspur v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[phil__]

Fuck me that was painful we hardly had a shot.  We realy are dog fuckin shit.  What the fuck is going on with playin heskey all the time.  All this bullshit that he wins headers etc is bollocks he never wins the flick ons so hes fuckin pointless.  I could see the point in playing hutton to double up on bale but they didnt even get close to him.  We just stood off we needed to push up the pitch.  Mcleish just has not got a clue.  Is marc alrbrighton shaggin his wife or summat cos he was are best player last year and cant even get on the fuckin bench.  This is making my blood boil its like mcleish is gettin revenge for all the beatings he took off us at the blues making us as shit as we can be.  We have to get this guy out and we may as well start now cos the club is goin knowhere with this guy.  Whos up for a protest? and i am serious dont give me this shit that we need to give him time and we aint doin so bad were 8th blah blah were aston fuckin villa we got good players and we should be at least looking like we can give spurs a game that was fuckin embarrasing.

[Matt Collins]

I think we all expected to lose. I didn't expect us to be that bad.

Collins is costing us several goals and if Clark is as promising as people think I reckon he needs a chance.

Hopeless team selection and complete lack of confidence, movement and ambition throughout the team.

I'm so pleased I didn't watch that with my spurs supporting mates.

I'm just not going to think about villa now till the Swansea game. That way madness lies.

Please can we get Heskey and Hutton out of midfield as quickly as possible! I honestly don't think Heskey is ever NOT on his heels.

[Lobsterboy]

Yes tonight's performance was poor and McLeish's gamble of doubling up on Bale failed miserably but we are still 8th in the Premier League not 18th

Not many positives from the game sadly apart from another good shift from Herd but need to work on the defensive fuck ups (again) and trust the manager will pick a slightly more creative side against Swansea

Three points on Sunday and the world won't seem quite as grim as it does this evening.

Oh and Spurs are a good side

[Somniloquism]

Much as I hate losing, I can accept losing if we at least try and win and go down fighting.

The team selection and lack of substitutions or tactical changes means we never even attempted to win this match. Complete fucking disgrace.

Pretty much summed up how I feel. There's no excuse for not competing. Spurs weren't even that good and should be annoyed at themselves for not bagging 6 or 7. I've been behind Big Feck but some of those guys tonight really looked like they couldn't be arsed and that is not acceptable.

Exactly the same level of performance as against Citeh and against Baggies when we went a man down. It is almost as if McCleish says to them that we were going to lose anyway so don't bother doing anything.

A couple of seasons ago you knew we would fight for them points even if we didn't play well. Now most of the players will put in minimum effort as they know they can't be dropped or replaced as we have no money to replace them.

[steamer]

I petitioned loudly on here against Mcleash appointment, not because of scum connections but because it set a benchmark for our ambitions. nice guy, not going to rock the boat, never going to win much and will bore you to death on the journey.
Randy, sorry, I admire the good things you have done but your choices of managers has been poor and we are all going to reap what you have sown.
In 50 years of supporting the Villa the last two years have numbed me to expect crap like tonight and I am sad rather than angry.

[mrfuse]

I've been rowing with some reporter from the sun all game on twitter.

We are shit, the players and manager are shit.

Collins, Hutton, Heskey should be dropped.

Clark, Gardner, Weimann, Should get more game time and Bannan and Delph should start next week.

Agreed at least the youngsters would have shown more enthusiasm, okay we might have still lost but Id rather see Gardner and Albrighton in midfield than Heskey and Hutton

[CJ]

On that showing in terms of tactics and lack of fight and creativity, and with the fixtures we've got coming up in December,  I fear we're heading for a relegation scrap in the New Year. And this year we don't have the players to dig us out of it like last season. Fortunately Wolves, Wigan, Blackburn and Sunderland look worse than us at the minute. But I'm genuinely worried.

[rbcuk]

Embarrassing

[Fasth56]

Another one who has not questioned McCleish until now, but playing 6 outfield defensive players was asking for trouble. thought they would run up a cricket score. Never seen a 2 - 0 loss defended before!

[saunders_heroes]

I've been rowing with some reporter from the sun all game on twitter.

We are shit, the players and manager are shit.

Collins, Hutton, Heskey should be dropped.

Clark, Gardner, Weimann, Should get more game time and Bannan and Delph should start next week.

We'd be even worse with all the kids in.

[Barca 2011]

To many players were beaten before we even kicked off.No belief.
Far to much respect shown to a good Spuds side who hardly broke sweat cos or our tactics and attitude.Not a good start to a very difficult run of games up to January.
Its going to get worse.
For what its worth I thought Herd had a decent game, as for everyone else .........

[Greg N'Ash]

Absolute bizarre team selection.. I'd say he'd thrown the game if i thought anyone would make it that obvious.  Obviously just a tactical fuckwitt

[Villanation]

The real sad thing is that Darren Bent had a couple of sitters in the first half, he missed them, fair enough, what the hell would we have done if he had of scored and got Spurs back up and playing with anger, we had absolute zero to stop them.

AM clearly writes certain games of and takes the loss, you can't do that in the Premiership, you have to fight for every game, get players thinking like that and the next thing is we roll over to teams like Swansea.

[mike]

we are still 8th in the Premier League not 18th

Only because we've had a really easy start to the season, wait till the New Year.

[Compass]

How much you wanna bet that McLeish will still give automatic starts to Collins, Hutton, Heskey etc but he'll drop Herd for Jenas and that's it.