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Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #360 on: December 13, 2011, 03:30:31 PM »
The police are there for crowd control, they managed to do the opposite.

By the looks of it, they asked the guy to leave and then he started to become confrontational so they had to use force to get him out.  No doubt he probably used profanity as well which police do not stand for especially if it is aimed at them so im sorry, the mug deserved to be dragged out as he was not leaving when asked.

How can a hanful of police control a bunch of mindless thugs charging at them down the stairs?

How do you know what he was being asked to leave for?

Maybe he'd done nothing wrong?

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #361 on: December 13, 2011, 03:43:05 PM »
The police are there for crowd control, they managed to do the opposite.

By the looks of it, they asked the guy to leave and then he started to become confrontational so they had to use force to get him out.  No doubt he probably used profanity as well which police do not stand for especially if it is aimed at them so im sorry, the mug deserved to be dragged out as he was not leaving when asked.

How can a hanful of police control a bunch of mindless thugs charging at them down the stairs?

How do you know what he was being asked to leave for?

Maybe he'd done nothing wrong?

I didn't say I knew what he was being asked to leave for nor does anyone else.  Obviously he had done something for the police to come up to him and ask him to leave but then he started gobbing off which led to him being dragged out which resulted in the rest of the fans in that area to kick off too.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #362 on: December 13, 2011, 03:52:42 PM »
The police are there for crowd control, they managed to do the opposite.

By the looks of it, they asked the guy to leave and then he started to become confrontational so they had to use force to get him out.  No doubt he probably used profanity as well which police do not stand for especially if it is aimed at them so im sorry, the mug deserved to be dragged out as he was not leaving when asked.

How can a hanful of police control a bunch of mindless thugs charging at them down the stairs?

How do you know what he was being asked to leave for?

Maybe he'd done nothing wrong?

I didn't say I knew what he was being asked to leave for nor does anyone else.  Obviously he had done something for the police to come up to him and ask him to leave but then he started gobbing off which led to him being dragged out which resulted in the rest of the fans in that area to kick off too.

Don't the police frequently get involved at the request of the stewards?

So if the stewards decided to eject him for - say - sitting near some people waving a banner, and he refused, and they got the police in, surely he'd be expected to insist he'd done nothing wrong? Wouldn't you?

You're also assume he used profanity, which you don't know.

Like you said, you don't know what he said to them, what the stewards involvement was, or whether he swore at them, so it seems a tricky situation to be saying he deserved to be dragged out.

Offline Rick_avfc

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #363 on: December 13, 2011, 04:04:42 PM »
Don't the police frequently get involved at the request of the stewards?

So if the stewards decided to eject him for - say - sitting near some people waving a banner, and he refused, and they got the police in, surely he'd be expected to insist he'd done nothing wrong? Wouldn't you?

You're also assume he used profanity, which you don't know.

Like you said, you don't know what he said to them, what the stewards involvement was, or whether he swore at them, so it seems a tricky situation to be saying he deserved to be dragged out.

Yes I would but I do not for one minute believe they would have ejected him for something so silly as sitting next to someone or near someone who was waving a banner.  there is obviously more to it than what the video clip shows.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #364 on: December 13, 2011, 04:06:55 PM »
Don't the police frequently get involved at the request of the stewards?

So if the stewards decided to eject him for - say - sitting near some people waving a banner, and he refused, and they got the police in, surely he'd be expected to insist he'd done nothing wrong? Wouldn't you?

You're also assume he used profanity, which you don't know.

Like you said, you don't know what he said to them, what the stewards involvement was, or whether he swore at them, so it seems a tricky situation to be saying he deserved to be dragged out.

Yes I would but I do not for one minute believe they would have ejected him for something so silly as sitting next to someone or near someone who was waving a banner.  there is obviously more to it than what the video clip shows.

I dunno about that, to be honest.

Those stewards at the Ricoh are apparently an organisation like the ones they use at Old Trafford that got a lot of bad publicity a while back.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #365 on: December 13, 2011, 07:36:49 PM »
"My arseholes, my inbreds,
 A thorn in my pride..."

Black Crowes fan? *Thumbs up*

Right on brother.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #366 on: December 13, 2011, 08:13:33 PM »
Isn't that big, bold, ugly fella in the sky blue polo shirt the same chap that held up the 'We'll be back' sign at Villa Park the day we sent them down?

Have we got an expected arrival time as yet for their return?



We'll see Jesus again before them.
I actually miss them in the Prem.  Most games had an element of drama - good and bad.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #367 on: December 13, 2011, 08:28:23 PM »
I dont miss them Tony, after leaving Brum at an early age I lived in Coventry for 20 odd years and they absolutely hate us with a passion, I take great pleasure in their demise, horrible spiteful club, my feelings towards them are almost as strong as for Small Heath which is why I dont like helping them out with the Gary Gardner loan.     

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #368 on: December 14, 2011, 06:32:34 AM »
The police are there for crowd control, they managed to do the opposite.

By the looks of it, they asked the guy to leave and then he started to become confrontational so they had to use force to get him out.  No doubt he probably used profanity as well which police do not stand for especially if it is aimed at them so im sorry, the mug deserved to be dragged out as he was not leaving when asked.

How can a hanful of police control a bunch of mindless thugs charging at them down the stairs?

Sorry, I didn't realise you had the background to the incident can you explain what the "mug" had done?

If they had handled it better they wouldn't have had to deal with the later reaction.

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #369 on: December 14, 2011, 09:21:20 AM »
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Yes I would but I do not for one minute believe they would have ejected him for something so silly as sitting next to someone or near someone who was waving a banner.

Unless things have changed very recently, the West Midlands Police have a football-wide reputation for ejecting people for the most ridiculous of reasons. Always have.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #370 on: December 14, 2011, 09:35:43 AM »
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Yes I would but I do not for one minute believe they would have ejected him for something so silly as sitting next to someone or near someone who was waving a banner.

Unless things have changed very recently, the West Midlands Police have a football-wide reputation for ejecting people for the most ridiculous of reasons. Always have.

Is it not the legendary West Mercia mob at Cov? They we're always famed for laissez faire approach crowd management......

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #371 on: December 14, 2011, 09:39:46 AM »
I'm sure it's West Midlands Poilice

I'm happy to be corrected though

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #372 on: December 14, 2011, 10:20:33 AM »
I'm sure it's West Midlands Poilice

I'm happy to be corrected though

You're right, it is West Midlands and they seem to treat as every football fan as though they're a potential hooligan.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #373 on: December 14, 2011, 10:26:39 AM »
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Yes I would but I do not for one minute believe they would have ejected him for something so silly as sitting next to someone or near someone who was waving a banner.

Unless things have changed very recently, the West Midlands Police have a football-wide reputation for ejecting people for the most ridiculous of reasons. Always have.

Is it not the legendary West Mercia mob at Cov? They we're always famed for laissez faire approach crowd management......

West Mercia do not cover Coventry. It's West Midlands.

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Re: Gary Gardner - including loan to Coventry
« Reply #374 on: December 14, 2011, 10:33:46 AM »
We always had loads arrested at Highfield Rd and I recall the police were heavy handed.

 


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