Aston Villa v Norwich City Post-Match Thread

[barrysleftfoot]

  I went to the game yday, and quite frankly the Norwich fans were a pain in the arse........i almost never got my customary pre-match game in the Bartons because there were so many of them in there.

  I do think Ireland, Hutton and Warnock get a lot of undeserved stick though.Irelands running off the ball is quite fantastic,and with better passes yday he could have scored at least 1.We did'nt moan about Plattys lack of defensive work, and Ireland is that kind of player, granted not up to Plattys quality, but Ireland offers us something no other Villa midfielder offers atm....i would keep him tbh.

 Hutton is just ok to me, as was Lyoung, but hes quicker, better going foward and younger.He looks what he is , a £3m player.

 Warnocks distribution was the reason why Gabby had such a good game yday, gave it him early, and accurately.Could have done better for the 2nd goal, but again an ok player.

[fredm]

I think the main problem with N'Zogbia is that at Wigan he had what appeared to be an entirely free attacking role - could go wherever he wanted, pick up the ball, run at the opposition, shoot at goal etc.  No defensive duties to worry about.

At Villa we seem to play a much more structured game and he is predominantly playing in a wide right role with the added responsibility of tracking back as necessary.  As I see him, he seems to be having difficulty adjusting to this, let's hope it becomes easier to him as time goes by.

Unfortunately in the meantime Hutton, who granted is not the best defender, is often left exposed plus, I believe, the opposition have seen the way N'Zogbia is playing and is targetting that area.

[pauliewalnuts]

and gave the crosser plenty of time and space for the second goal.  That said, I guess he should be getting support from N'Zogbia, who was usually nowhere to be seen.

It was Ireland. Hutton was in a heap on the ground for the 2nd

I hadn't realised till i saw MOTD that it was Hutton's arrival a few minutes too late in a pointless challenge on the edge of our box which gave away the free kick from which Norwich scored.

[LeeB]

  I went to the game yday, and quite frankly the Norwich fans were a pain in the arse........i almost never got my customary pre-match game in the Bartons because there were so many of them in there.

  I do think Ireland, Hutton and Warnock get a lot of undeserved stick though.Irelands running off the ball is quite fantastic,and with better passes yday he could have scored at least 1.We did'nt moan about Plattys lack of defensive work, and Ireland is that kind of player, granted not up to Plattys quality, but Ireland offers us something no other Villa midfielder offers atm....i would keep him tbh.

 Hutton is just ok to me, as was Lyoung, but hes quicker, better going foward and younger.He looks what he is , a £3m player.

 Warnocks distribution was the reason why Gabby had such a good game yday, gave it him early, and accurately.Could have done better for the 2nd goal, but again an ok player.

Agreed on most points except Ireland.

He's a liability, his wank attemp at cutting out the pass and even wankier jockeying cost us their 2nd, and that shit nothing pass when through at the end summed him up.

He's useless to us, whenever he comes on I feel we're suddenly exposed. We'd be better off with Stephen Hawking.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Great to hear so many of you enjoyed the game. What a difference it makes to come away from Villa Park having been entertained. Also Lambert (a thinking man's MON), mentioned how difficult it was for Norwich to play when we had the fans behind us. Long may it continue.

[hawkeye]

I think the main problem with N'Zogbia is that at Wigan he had what appeared to be an entirely free attacking role - could go wherever he wanted, pick up the ball, run at the opposition, shoot at goal etc.  No defensive duties to worry about.

At Villa we seem to play a much more structured game and he is predominantly playing in a wide right role with the added responsibility of tracking back as necessary.  As I see him, he seems to be having difficulty adjusting to this, let's hope it becomes easier to him as time goes by.

Unfortunately in the meantime Hutton, who granted is not the best defender, is often left exposed plus, I believe, the opposition have seen the way N'Zogbia is playing and is targetting that area.

I think the problem with Nzogbia is that people were fooled by some decent highlights and probably had never seen hip play a full game, now that we have we realise that he is a flash in the pan type player.

[Chris Smith]

and gave the crosser plenty of time and space for the second goal.  That said, I guess he should be getting support from N'Zogbia, who was usually nowhere to be seen.

It was Ireland. Hutton was in a heap on the ground for the 2nd

I hadn't realised till i saw MOTD that it was Hutton's arrival a few minutes too late in a pointless challenge on the edge of our box which gave away the free kick from which Norwich scored.

It wasn't a free kick. The players follow through took him into Hutton, he's getting a lot of unfair criticism.

[Legion]

I didn't think it was a free-kick, either.

[rutski]

didnt think it was a free kick either and i thought ireland got fouled on the build up to their second.

[Chris Smith]

I think the main problem with N'Zogbia is that at Wigan he had what appeared to be an entirely free attacking role - could go wherever he wanted, pick up the ball, run at the opposition, shoot at goal etc.  No defensive duties to worry about.

At Villa we seem to play a much more structured game and he is predominantly playing in a wide right role with the added responsibility of tracking back as necessary.  As I see him, he seems to be having difficulty adjusting to this, let's hope it becomes easier to him as time goes by.

Unfortunately in the meantime Hutton, who granted is not the best defender, is often left exposed plus, I believe, the opposition have seen the way N'Zogbia is playing and is targetting that area.

I think the problem with Nzogbia is that people were fooled by some decent highlights and probably had never seen hip play a full game, now that we have we realise that he is a flash in the pan type player.

To me he's steadily improving, along with the team as a whole. His biggest problem is that he is replacing Ashley Young who even on a bad day almost always created chances.

In Bent and Gabby we have the best attacking options  outside the top 6, if N'Zogbia continues to improve then they'll be a handful for most defences.

I was also very pleased with Jenas. The pass inside the full back to Gabby with, I think, his first involvement was class, delaying it long enough to almost force the run.

[LeeB]

and gave the crosser plenty of time and space for the second goal.  That said, I guess he should be getting support from N'Zogbia, who was usually nowhere to be seen.

It was Ireland. Hutton was in a heap on the ground for the 2nd

I hadn't realised till i saw MOTD that it was Hutton's arrival a few minutes too late in a pointless challenge on the edge of our box which gave away the free kick from which Norwich scored.

It wasn't a free kick. The players follow through took him into Hutton, he's getting a lot of unfair criticism.

I didn't think it was at the time, and I certainly didn't think it was seeing it on the telly.

I thought Hutton was sound yesterday. He works hard and he gets stuck in. It's a good platform from which to improve and he will.

[darren woolley]

I'm pleased with the win I thought Gabby was immense and Bent was back to his best it's nice to look at the league table now.

[LeeB]

And Jenas had a swagger in that midfield that we've missed for some time.

If that promise is fulfilled, we might actually be in for a decent season.

[DB]

I think the main problem with N'Zogbia is that at Wigan he had what appeared to be an entirely free attacking role - could go wherever he wanted, pick up the ball, run at the opposition, shoot at goal etc.  No defensive duties to worry about.

At Villa we seem to play a much more structured game and he is predominantly playing in a wide right role with the added responsibility of tracking back as necessary.  As I see him, he seems to be having difficulty adjusting to this, let's hope it becomes easier to him as time goes by.

Unfortunately in the meantime Hutton, who granted is not the best defender, is often left exposed plus, I believe, the opposition have seen the way N'Zogbia is playing and is targetting that area.

I think the problem with Nzogbia is that people were fooled by some decent highlights and probably had never seen hip play a full game, now that we have we realise that he is a flash in the pan type player.

To me he's steadily improving, along with the team as a whole. His biggest problem is that he is replacing Ashley Young who even on a bad day almost always created chances.

In Bent and Gabby we have the best attacking options  outside the top 6, if N'Zogbia continues to improve then they'll be a handful for most defences.

I was also very pleased with Jenas. The pass inside the full back to Gabby with, I think, his first involvement was class, delaying it long enough to almost force the run.

Improving? He was awful yesterday, didn't do anything,when he had the ball he just got his head down and lost it. If that's an improvement I shudder to think what he was like before.

[Chris Smith]

Yes, improving. Hard working, always trying to make things happen and making runs to make space for others.