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Author Topic: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?  (Read 80947 times)

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #270 on: November 05, 2011, 01:13:31 AM »
It's not just this season, you can count the really entertaining games since Randy arrived on your thumbs.
That's loblocks. Selective memory imo


Thumbs no. Fingers yes.

Everton 1-1, Sheff Utd 3-0, Derby 5-0, Arsenal 0-2, Arsenal 2-2, Tottenham 4-4. Chelsea 4-4, Man Utd 0-1, Chelsea 2-0, Ajax 2-1, Reading 2-4, Blues 5-1...

Offline glasses

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #271 on: November 05, 2011, 01:43:41 AM »
It's not just this season, you can count the really entertaining games since Randy arrived on your thumbs.
That's loblocks. Selective memory imo


Thumbs no. Fingers yes.

Everton 1-1, Sheff Utd 3-0, Derby 5-0, Arsenal 0-2, Arsenal 2-2, Tottenham 4-4. Chelsea 4-4, Man Utd 0-1, Chelsea 2-0, Ajax 2-1, Reading 2-4, Blues 5-1...
Liverpool 3-1, Man City 4-2, Everton 3-2, Blackburn 6-4, Chelsea 2-1, Derby 6-0, Everton 2-2...

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Offline VillaZogmariner

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #272 on: November 05, 2011, 08:03:47 AM »
That run of form we went on that included the 3-2 at Everton, 2-0 at Arsenal, 4-0 at Wigan as well as the other run of 3 games that were 4-0 v Bolton, 5-1 v Blues and 6-0 v Derby were good.

In fact when we played that 4-3-3/4-5-1 formation with Sidwell, Barry, Petrov, Young, Milner, Gabby as the front 6 were very enjoyable to watch.

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #273 on: November 05, 2011, 11:49:14 AM »
It's not just this season, you can count the really entertaining games since Randy arrived on your thumbs.
That's loblocks. Selective memory imo


Thumbs no. Fingers yes.

Everton 1-1, Sheff Utd 3-0, Derby 5-0, Arsenal 0-2, Arsenal 2-2, Tottenham 4-4. Chelsea 4-4, Man Utd 0-1, Chelsea 2-0, Ajax 2-1, Reading 2-4, Blues 5-1...

home matches.

This is what Villadelphia was referring to

You cant blame anyone (except BCV) for not turning up to our home games this season.

I've had more exciting dental appointments.

Offline caster troy

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #274 on: November 05, 2011, 06:23:19 PM »
So Randy was at the game today then?

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #275 on: November 05, 2011, 07:00:03 PM »
So Randy was at the game today then?

Apparently. Couldn't see him from where I sit but I did spot Delia Smith when Norwich scored their first

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #276 on: November 06, 2011, 12:18:01 AM »
Was Stephen Fry there today?

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #277 on: November 06, 2011, 01:28:21 AM »
It's not just this season, you can count the really entertaining games since Randy arrived on your thumbs.
That's loblocks. Selective memory imo


Thumbs no. Fingers yes.

Everton 1-1, Sheff Utd 3-0, Derby 5-0, Arsenal 0-2, Arsenal 2-2, Tottenham 4-4. Chelsea 4-4, Man Utd 0-1, Chelsea 2-0, Ajax 2-1, Reading 2-4, Blues 5-1...

home matches.

This is what Villadelphia was referring to

You cant blame anyone (except BCV) for not turning up to our home games this season.

I've had more exciting dental appointments.

Fair enough.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #278 on: November 06, 2011, 01:36:43 AM »
I actually thought the a fair chunk of the calendar year of 2008 was pretty exciting - home and away.

The tail end of the 2007/08 season -a season when we scored 71(!) goals in the league was outstanding -apart from a home defeat to Wigan. And the first part of 2008/09 set us up for our bid for 4th -until our form (home form in particular) fell away badly in the second half of the campaign.

Taken as a whole, I actually have better memories of the 07/08 campaign. Beating Chelsea at home really did seem to give us lift off - it was a period in time when we thought anything was possible.  Home form didn't seem as much of an issue then, either.

Probably our best Nike kit too -  might be seen as a classic in a few years.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #279 on: November 06, 2011, 09:05:04 AM »
So Randy was at the game today then?

Yes, I saw him (or a good lookalike) in the players 'pen' getting out of his car

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #280 on: November 06, 2011, 09:25:45 AM »
I can think of four good things and two bad things to say about Randy Lerner's time as Villa chairman.

The good things:
1. He came in at the time we needed him most and possibly saved us from a spell in the Championship.

2. He brought enthusiasm back at the club by backing a well-respected manager and investing in the club's infrastructure after years of penny-pinching.

3. He made a genuine attempt at bringing us among the elite of the Premier League.

4. In a time when football clubs increasingly are a plaything for multi-billionaires and a way for average performers to earn obscene amounts of money, and football is becoming a product to market and sell as entertainment to armchair supporters around the world; Lerner tried (superfluosly or not) to make Aston Villa about the club's heritage and its supporters.

The bad things:
1. He doesn't know how to run a football club, which isn't a problem in itself. The problem is that he prefers to work with his mates rather than people who know what they're doing. As a result, the club is run amateurishly. As long as that continues, we have no chance to compete with the big boys, as we are way behind in terms of money.

2. He has pulled the plug on spending far too quickly, making the squad far too thin and vulnerable. While I think that relegation is unlikely it is not impossible if we hit a nasty injury crisis. To me that means that we're taking an unnecessary gamble.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #281 on: November 06, 2011, 09:35:45 AM »


4. In a time when football clubs increasingly are a plaything for multi-billionaires and a way for average performers to earn obscene amounts of money, and football is becoming a product to market and sell as entertainment to armchair supporters around the world; Lerner tried (superfluosly or not) to make Aston Villa about the club's heritage and its supporters.


A nice mosaic and some free scarves don't hind the fact that we're a billionaire's plaything with lots of average performers earning obscene amounts of money.  The whole General posting on sites was nothing more than a "hearts and minds" marketing initiative as well, one that ended up going badly wrong.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #282 on: November 06, 2011, 09:43:50 AM »


4. In a time when football clubs increasingly are a plaything for multi-billionaires and a way for average performers to earn obscene amounts of money, and football is becoming a product to market and sell as entertainment to armchair supporters around the world; Lerner tried (superfluosly or not) to make Aston Villa about the club's heritage and its supporters.


A nice mosaic and some free scarves don't hind the fact that we're a billionaire's plaything with lots of average performers earning obscene amounts of money.  The whole General posting on sites was nothing more than a "hearts and minds" marketing initiative as well, one that ended up going badly wrong.

At least he made the effort of trying to hide the truth from us !  ;)

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #283 on: November 06, 2011, 02:43:18 PM »


4. In a time when football clubs increasingly are a plaything for multi-billionaires and a way for average performers to earn obscene amounts of money, and football is becoming a product to market and sell as entertainment to armchair supporters around the world; Lerner tried (superfluosly or not) to make Aston Villa about the club's heritage and its supporters.


A nice mosaic and some free scarves don't hind the fact that we're a billionaire's plaything with lots of average performers earning obscene amounts of money.  The whole General posting on sites was nothing more than a "hearts and minds" marketing initiative as well, one that ended up going badly wrong.

Agree, and we must have been muppets for thinking he was here for real, for the long term

I know I do !

I have worked with Americans and I'll say no more.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #284 on: November 06, 2011, 03:56:48 PM »
There's nothing like a bit of generalisation.

 


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