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Author Topic: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?  (Read 80958 times)

Offline MarkM

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #240 on: November 03, 2011, 07:46:10 PM »
Maybe he has come over because he thinks Saturdays game is one we should win and thus not have to face the negative reaction of a crapy defeat

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #241 on: November 03, 2011, 07:50:10 PM »
I'm with you Dante. Let the manager manage the football team, and put all his efforts and focus into that and things football. Let the business side be run by others like dein. If the manager has full control, not only are fingers going to get burnt (like he who shall not be named) but surely the manager becomes a "jack of all trades. Master of none." And time that could be and should be better spend running the squad side of things doesn't get the full attention it should do.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #242 on: November 03, 2011, 09:15:32 PM »
Apparantly, according to the Birminham Airport based poster on VT, Lerner is 'in the house'.
Arrived at BHX earlier today (in his new plane).



Stolen from VT: anyone fancy buying his old one?

http://www.aircraftdealer.com/aircraft_for_sale_detail/Dassault_Falcon/2006_Falcon_900EX_EASy/34462.htm

In line with the spending cuts at the club: Here is his new one


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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #243 on: November 03, 2011, 09:18:24 PM »
I might be on my own here, head on chopping block. This isn't ment to provoke, but it's my opinion. I think we're looking back at Steve Stride's time at villa through claret and blue coloured spectacles. I can remember him making some dodgy decissions (please don't ask me to name them, it was long ago and I can't remember them specifically) in his time, and thinking its about time he moved on and out the club along with Doug. The all seemed old school, an not in a good way.

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.

I think we need to move forward, not look back. And certainly not back to Steve Stride.

Dein & Stride are two different people who did two different jobs. Dein is/was a CEO frontman in overall charge of his club while Steve was in charge of admin, and despite getting lumped in with the Ellis-era "Everything's shit and everyone's useless" complaints was generally regarded throughout football as the best club secretary in the country.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #244 on: November 03, 2011, 09:29:04 PM »
I have nothing but the greatest respect for Steve Stride.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #245 on: November 03, 2011, 09:47:20 PM »
I might be on my own here, head on chopping block. This isn't ment to provoke, but it's my opinion. I think we're looking back at Steve Stride's time at villa through claret and blue coloured spectacles. I can remember him making some dodgy decissions (please don't ask me to name them, it was long ago and I can't remember them specifically) in his time, and thinking its about time he moved on and out the club along with Doug. The all seemed old school, an not in a good way.

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.

I think we need to move forward, not look back. And certainly not back to Steve Stride.

Dein & Stride are two different people who did two different jobs. Dein is/was a CEO frontman in overall charge of his club while Steve was in charge of admin, and despite getting lumped in with the Ellis-era "Everything's shit and everyone's useless" complaints was generally regarded throughout football as the best club secretary in the country.

Apologies for my ignorance. I actually did think Stride was more of a CEO figure.
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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #246 on: November 03, 2011, 09:54:48 PM »
I might be on my own here, head on chopping block. This isn't ment to provoke, but it's my opinion. I think we're looking back at Steve Stride's time at villa through claret and blue coloured spectacles. I can remember him making some dodgy decissions (please don't ask me to name them, it was long ago and I can't remember them specifically) in his time, and thinking its about time he moved on and out the club along with Doug. The all seemed old school, an not in a good way.

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.

I think we need to move forward, not look back. And certainly not back to Steve Stride.

Dein & Stride are two different people who did two different jobs. Dein is/was a CEO frontman in overall charge of his club while Steve was in charge of admin, and despite getting lumped in with the Ellis-era "Everything's shit and everyone's useless" complaints was generally regarded throughout football as the best club secretary in the country.

Apologies for my ignorance. I actually did think Stride was more of a CEO figure.

The only time he was in any sort of charge was when Doug had his heart operation in summer 2005. Steve and Doug's secretary Marion Stringer basically ran the club and seemed to do a good job.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #247 on: November 04, 2011, 08:19:51 AM »
That would be the summer that Steve did fuckface's wheeling and dealing with a minimum of fuss and with total professionalism.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #248 on: November 04, 2011, 09:11:50 AM »
Interesting. Why have I always been under the impression he was responsible for some dodgy dealings and bad decissions?

That's listening to some people who you think know more about the game that what you do. Without knowing the facts.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #249 on: November 04, 2011, 09:17:07 AM »
The only things for which I would criticise Steve during his time at Villa were the Tony Barton memorial (see elsewhere) and his vote to allow MK Scabs to exist. Apart from that BFR summed him up - "The best club secretary I ever worked with." 

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #250 on: November 04, 2011, 10:29:36 AM »
Maybe he has come over because he thinks Saturdays game is one we should win and thus not have to face the negative reaction of a crapy defeat

I reckon he's seen some of the ticket deals and fancies it.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #251 on: November 04, 2011, 10:32:01 AM »
The only things for which I would criticise Steve during his time at Villa were the Tony Barton memorial (see elsewhere) and his vote to allow MK Scabs to exist. Apart from that BFR summed him up - "The best club secretary I ever worked with." 

I wasn't impressed with his surly and often openly antagonistic attitude at AGM's or his staunch defence of the crazy decision to adopt a striped home shirt. Brilliant guitarist though apparently.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #252 on: November 04, 2011, 10:38:14 AM »
The only things for which I would criticise Steve during his time at Villa were the Tony Barton memorial (see elsewhere) and his vote to allow MK Scabs to exist. Apart from that BFR summed him up - "The best club secretary I ever worked with." 

I wasn't impressed with his surly and often openly antagonistic attitude at AGM's or his staunch defence of the crazy decision to adopt a striped home shirt. Brilliant guitarist though apparently.

That's because it was the one day of the year he hated. He's the first to admit he's not too good at appearing in public. 

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #253 on: November 04, 2011, 10:40:43 AM »
I don't, and never have had, anything against Steve Stride.  My only criticism, which others may know more about and put me wrong, is that at a time when Doug needed to be challenged about his running of the club, he came across as a stereotypical 'yes man'.  Granted, that may have been a united front they presented and it was different behind closed doors, but he never struck me as the type of dynamic personality that could influence him in anyway.   

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #254 on: November 04, 2011, 10:47:14 AM »
I have nothing but the greatest respect for Steve Stride.

Didn't he have something to do with Wimbledon being moved out of London?

 


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