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Offline Dave Clark Five

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #225 on: November 03, 2011, 04:32:41 PM »
Apparantly, according to the Birminham Airport based poster on VT, Lerner is 'in the house'.
Arrived at BHX earlier today (in his new plane).



Maybe Mr.Lerner has heard that the natives are restless.
He's never going to sign Messi. He isn't. He isn't. He isn't.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #226 on: November 03, 2011, 05:02:13 PM »
I've been to paradise but i've never been to me.

Gone a bit downhill, I've heard.

They paved paradise to put up a parking lot.

Might as well be in Dudley.

Think I saw Mr. Lerner in a big yellow taxi earlier on.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #227 on: November 03, 2011, 05:25:55 PM »
Apparantly, according to the Birminham Airport based poster on VT, Lerner is 'in the house'.
Arrived at BHX earlier today (in his new plane).



Maybe Mr.Lerner has heard that the natives are restless.
He's never going to sign Messi. He isn't. He isn't. He isn't.
I don't want him to sign Messi I just want him to take control and steady what feels like a slowly sinking ship.  I hope that my faith in him has not been wasted.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #228 on: November 03, 2011, 05:28:44 PM »
I've also never been to Hinckley but I'm told it's a bit like Nuneaton. Ive been there at it's not very nice at all.

It's a horrible place (both Hinckley and Nuneaton) but luckily our minibus will be going to the ground straight from a real ale pub and departing for another one straight afterwards, we won't be going anywhere near the town!

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #229 on: November 03, 2011, 05:33:23 PM »
I've also never been to Hinckley but I'm told it's a bit like Nuneaton. Ive been there at it's not very nice at all.

It's a horrible place (both Hinckley and Nuneaton) but luckily our minibus will be going to the ground straight from a real ale pub and departing for another one straight afterwards, we won't be going anywhere near the town!
It's not the Lime Kilms is it?

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #230 on: November 03, 2011, 05:39:03 PM »

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.


David Dein is not a bad shout having just read his wiki profile.  I had him down as just a businessman but he was very much a football person looking at his CV.  Not to mention that he received 75m for his Arsenal shares which would be a nice injection of cash into the club.  A pretty perfect guy to sit alongside Randy.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #231 on: November 03, 2011, 05:39:36 PM »

Think I saw Mr. Lerner in a big yellow taxi earlier on.
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Trouble is, he won't know what's he's got till it's gone.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #232 on: November 03, 2011, 05:43:45 PM »
I might be on my own here, head on chopping block. This isn't ment to provoke, but it's my opinion. I think we're looking back at Steve Stride's time at villa through claret and blue coloured spectacles. I can remember him making some dodgy decissions (please don't ask me to name them, it was long ago and I can't remember them specifically) in his time, and thinking its about time he moved on and out the club along with Doug. The all seemed old school, an not in a good way.

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.

I think we need to move forward, not look back. And certainly not back to Steve Stride.


We don't need people like Stride or Dein. In fact the influence of these administrators is completely overstated.

All we need is no different from any club, namely a great manager with plenty of money to spend on players.

Until that day comes we're going to be muddling along whoever we've got working away behind the scenes with novel marketing ideas.   

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #233 on: November 03, 2011, 05:48:23 PM »
We don't need people like Stride or Dein. In fact the influence of these administrators is completely overstated.

I disagree.  Wenger offered to quit when he heard that Dein was leaving because he'd been so influential on his early years (the ones where they were winning things).

I do not think a great manager would hang around long if he was not supported properly by a decent board.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #234 on: November 03, 2011, 06:01:48 PM »
I've also never been to Hinckley but I'm told it's a bit like Nuneaton. Ive been there at it's not very nice at all.

It's a horrible place (both Hinckley and Nuneaton) but luckily our minibus will be going to the ground straight from a real ale pub and departing for another one straight afterwards, we won't be going anywhere near the town!
It's not the Lime Kilms is it?

Dunno yet, the itinerary is being put together by our resident real ale experts, they rarely let us down in their choice of hostelries. 

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #235 on: November 03, 2011, 06:07:19 PM »
I might be on my own here, head on chopping block. This isn't ment to provoke, but it's my opinion. I think we're looking back at Steve Stride's time at villa through claret and blue coloured spectacles. I can remember him making some dodgy decissions (please don't ask me to name them, it was long ago and I can't remember them specifically) in his time, and thinking its about time he moved on and out the club along with Doug. The all seemed old school, an not in a good way.

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.

I think we need to move forward, not look back. And certainly not back to Steve Stride.


We don't need people like Stride or Dein. In fact the influence of these administrators is completely overstated.

All we need is no different from any club, namely a great manager with plenty of money to spend on players.

Until that day comes we're going to be muddling along whoever we've got working away behind the scenes with novel marketing ideas.   

If you have a manger running things from top to bottom,you risked getting burnt if he wastes money and leaves,we've been there before.

And while a lot of money helps,as important is decent scouting and a good coach,look at Newcastle,i fear were lacking in both.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #236 on: November 03, 2011, 06:38:21 PM »
I might be on my own here, head on chopping block. This isn't ment to provoke, but it's my opinion. I think we're looking back at Steve Stride's time at villa through claret and blue coloured spectacles. I can remember him making some dodgy decissions (please don't ask me to name them, it was long ago and I can't remember them specifically) in his time, and thinking its about time he moved on and out the club along with Doug. The all seemed old school, an not in a good way.

I'd like to see someone like David Dein roll up at villa park than Steve Stride. Someone with more of a vision, it's no coincidence that since dein left arsenal they've not been the fighting force the once were.

I think we need to move forward, not look back. And certainly not back to Steve Stride.


We don't need people like Stride or Dein. In fact the influence of these administrators is completely overstated.

All we need is no different from any club, namely a great manager with plenty of money to spend on players.

Until that day comes we're going to be muddling along whoever we've got working away behind the scenes with novel marketing ideas.   

A good manager -even the very best- doesn't negotiate directly with opposition clubs vis a vis transfer fees and the like.   Wages -  both existing contracts and offers to potential players would also fall within his remit.

So I'd say a good administrator is absolutely vital, in all honesty.

I won't join the ranks of those calling RL clueless just yet (though recent events have eroded a big chunk of the faith I had in him if I'm honest).   But from what I can gather, he places a big emphasis on personal relationships - maybe too much.

Faulkner was with him from a young age at MBNA, he knows him and trusts him.  But was he really the best candidate for such a demanding role? Similarly with the choice of Big Eck, a big factor in that decision was supposedly the rapport they had built up over the years.   Should you ignore the merits of managers with better credentials for such considerations?  Time will tell whether he's right- in both cases.   But the signs don't look particularly promising so far, lets be honest.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #237 on: November 03, 2011, 06:58:03 PM »

I don't want him to sign Messi.

That's very ungrateful of you. He will be totally confused by now.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #238 on: November 03, 2011, 06:59:36 PM »
Apparantly, according to the Birminham Airport based poster on VT, Lerner is 'in the house'.
Arrived at BHX earlier today (in his new plane).



Maybe Mr.Lerner has heard that the natives are restless.
He's never going to sign Messi. He isn't. He isn't. He isn't.
I don't want him to sign Messi I just want him to take control and steady what feels like a slowly sinking ship.  I hope that my faith in him has not been wasted.

Seriously now, I think that is what many people are thinking.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #239 on: November 03, 2011, 07:36:55 PM »
Apparantly, according to the Birminham Airport based poster on VT, Lerner is 'in the house'.
Arrived at BHX earlier today (in his new plane).



Maybe Mr.Lerner has heard that the natives are restless.
He's never going to sign Messi. He isn't. He isn't. He isn't.
I don't want him to sign Messi I just want him to take control and steady what feels like a slowly sinking ship.  I hope that my faith in him has not been wasted.

Seriously now, I think that is what many people are thinking.


Apparantly, according to the Birminham Airport based poster on VT, Lerner is 'in the house'.
Arrived at BHX earlier today (in his new plane).



Maybe Mr.Lerner has heard that the natives are restless.
He's never going to sign Messi. He isn't. He isn't. He isn't.
I don't want him to sign Messi I just want him to take control and steady what feels like a slowly sinking ship.  I hope that my faith in him has not been wasted.

Seriously now, I think that is what many people are thinking.

I agree 100%. I think he could egt a lot of people back on side if he showed some leadership and sahred what the vision is for the club.

 


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