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Author Topic: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?  (Read 80982 times)

Offline brian green

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #105 on: November 01, 2011, 07:52:36 PM »
I stand by every word I said about General Charles Krulak being a man of  high calibre.   He is a US Marine Corps general with a long and distinguished record of service to his country and that will do for me.    Supposed failure as a non executive director of Aston Villa Football Club?   Tish tosh and taradiddle.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2011, 08:06:02 PM »
I stand by every word I said about General Charles Krulak being a man of  high calibre.   He is a US Marine Corps general with a long and distinguished record of service to his country and that will do for me.    Supposed failure as a non executive director of Aston Villa Football Club?   Tish tosh and taradiddle.

Correct.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2011, 08:26:14 PM »
2. Martinez was never even spoken to or interviewed , far from being offered the job.



He said Martinez turned us down, which is true in the sense that Martinez declined to be considered when we approached Whelan and he let Martinez decide himself.

So he didn't turn us down then, he opted out talking to us.  'Turning us down' implies he was offered something to turn down which he wasn't. 

That is worse than turning us down.

At least to turn us down he would have spoken to us in the first place. Villa is the biggest job Martinez will ever get the chance of doing.

As far as Houllier and his illness goes RL appointed a coach who had had heart problems at Liverpool and effectively retired from the big time by managing in the shit French league and fannying about with the French FA

He is bought in from the wilderness by us and is under a lot of pressure which in turn effects his health.

Fuck me it's not like anyone didn't know about his previous illness and his age is it

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2011, 08:29:42 PM »
I stand by every word I said about General Charles Krulak being a man of  high calibre.   He is a US Marine C
Corps general with a long and distinguished record of service to his country and that will do for me.    Supposed failure as a non executive director of Aston Villa Football Club?   Tish tosh and taradiddle.

Yes a man of high calibre in that field but does not mean he knows how to run an English PL club....or whatever his re is.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2011, 08:35:27 PM »
 DB we are talking about the intrinsic worth of a man not whether he can run a football club.

There are men owning football clubs and running football clubs, even running them tolerably well, who are utter scumbags.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2011, 08:57:44 PM »
2. Martinez was never even spoken to or interviewed , far from being offered the job.



He said Martinez turned us down, which is true in the sense that Martinez declined to be considered when we approached Whelan and he let Martinez decide himself.

So he didn't turn us down then, he opted out talking to us.  'Turning us down' implies he was offered something to turn down which he wasn't. 

That is worse than turning us down.

At least to turn us down he would have spoken to us in the first place. Villa is the biggest job Martinez will ever get the chance of doing.


How can it be worse?

Just because the club wanted to talk to him didn't mean they deffinitely wanted to offer him a job.  It's my guess that Martinez felt that he owed Wheelan, that he hadn't finished a job there and that had he agreed to talk to us and nothing came of it then going back to Wigan could have alienated him from their fans.

In any case, Martinez soon after stated that the time was not right to move on.  I take that to mean some of the above and more of him not quite ready for the size of job Villa is.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2011, 09:19:02 PM »
I stand by every word I said about General Charles Krulak being a man of  high calibre.   He is a US Marine Corps general with a long and distinguished record of service to his country and that will do for me.    Supposed failure as a non executive director of Aston Villa Football Club?   Tish tosh and taradiddle.

Agreed

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2011, 09:36:29 PM »
DB we are talking about the intrinsic worth of a man not whether he can run a football club.

There are men owning football clubs and running football clubs, even running them tolerably well, who are utter scumbags.

You said he was a loss to football.  He may very well be a nice bloke, but a football man he wasn't.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2011, 09:46:48 PM »
They're only around when things are going well. When the fans have got genuine questions and concerns bullshitter Krulak is nowhere to be seen. If McLeish somehow gets us top 8 by boring everyone to tears billy bullshitter will come scurrying back online telling us all 'see we told you to watch what he could do with a board that backs him'. He'll then be happy to answer the lemmings' questions about why the pies in the Trinity were cold as they all kiss his arse and tell him how much they missed him. There used to be some right gimps posting in that thread licking his arse, they couldn't see that he only ever gave a straight answer about nonsense questions like why the upper Holte ran out of beer and that he was full of bollocks.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2011, 09:53:55 PM »
They're only around when things are going well.

Irony right there ^^^^^

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2011, 09:56:45 PM »
Do we know for definite that Randy hasn't been over this season or is this thread just because he hasn't been seen at a game ?

Nobody has claimed to have seen him at a game. Even when he appointed Alex McLeish, all the discussions appeared to take place in London. That is where Lerner was filmed with that mobile phone glued to his ear.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2011, 10:03:16 PM »
They're only around when things are going well.

Irony right there ^^^^^

Beat me to it.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #117 on: November 01, 2011, 10:10:20 PM »
They're only around when things are going well.

Irony right there ^^^^^

Beat me to it.

It was their fucked up decision to appoint him though, now tjhey're hiding. It's their fault that i'm staying away. I'm not staying away because things aren't going well, i went to every game under GTmk2, DOL and Houllier, i'm staying away because our owners are clueless and i said i'd stay away if they appointed that piss poor excuse for a manager.

Don't worry if McLeish bores his way to 8th billy bullshit will be back and you can kiss his arse again. Mugs.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #118 on: November 01, 2011, 10:14:20 PM »
There has been a reference on here to the General being a bullshitter. One occasion when he barked at me was when I mentioned the private room that O'Neill had in the Trinity Road Stand near the Board Room. It was a match day room for his family. I know it because a Club official showed the room to me.
The General said the room had never existed. Can't remember what I was winding him up about at the time but his memory appeared to have been clouded. 

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #119 on: November 01, 2011, 10:17:13 PM »
They're only around when things are going well.

Irony right there ^^^^^

Beat me to it.

It was their fucked up decision to appoint him though, now tjhey're hiding. It's their fault that i'm staying away.
At least there are some positives to their current stewardship then.

 


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