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Author Topic: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?  (Read 80969 times)

Offline TimTheVillain

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #90 on: November 01, 2011, 01:29:52 PM »
Is it any surprise that they're not communicating with us when "fool" and "congenital idiot" are being bandied about.

It's one thing having reservations about their policies but there is no place for that sort of abuse.

If they're not thick skinned enough to take the abuse some give out on a message board, then I doubt they're really cut out for the game as a whole to be honest.

It still doesn't make it right.

Anything they say will just get ripped apart so they're better off keeping out of it. What is to be gained by them engaging with fans when people like KT and BCV will just slag them off anyway?

Try 'some insight' may be gained.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #91 on: November 01, 2011, 01:38:02 PM »
The only reason people want to hear from them is so that they have the opportunity to tell them they're wrong and how things would be so much better if they did it their way.

I'd be interested to know how much of his money the critics think Randy should be putting into the club.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #92 on: November 01, 2011, 01:54:24 PM »
The only reason people want to hear from them is so that they have the opportunity to tell them they're wrong and how things would be so much better if they did it their way.

I'd be interested to know how much of his money the critics think Randy should be putting into the club.

If he hadn't let O'Neill waste such a vast amount, and we hadn't made nearly £90m worth of losses in two years, and if he'd increased revenues substantially from other means, perhaps we could at least have spent more of the money we received from the sales of Young and Downing.

Offline ktvillan

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #93 on: November 01, 2011, 01:58:37 PM »
Is it any surprise that they're not communicating with us when "fool" and "congenital idiot" are being bandied about.

It's one thing having reservations about their policies but there is no place for that sort of abuse.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #94 on: November 01, 2011, 02:11:01 PM »
It is a shame he is not around.   Villa and football cannot afford to lose men of such calibre.

Eh?  He was a non-exec with at best a very slim grasp of what Premier League football was about.  It seems like a few posts with sepia tinged references to pies, lads and the beautiful game were enough to pull the wool over a few people's eyes.  Unless you were being sarcastic in which case it went over my head, sorry.

When you say wool - was that a play on words in reference to the scarfs supplied also?

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #95 on: November 01, 2011, 02:25:30 PM »
The only reason people want to hear from them is so that they have the opportunity to tell them they're wrong and how things would be so much better if they did it their way.

I don't.

I want to hear from an owner I still have faith in to reassure me that that faith is not misplaced.  I want to once again feel that the club has a plan and a direction that all parties (board, manager, players & fans) are behind.  I want to be told that the present financial climate has hurt us, but has not diminished their commitment to the club.  I want to hear what they think of the falling attendances and how they feel this will be reversed in the (hopefully!) not too distant future.

Yes, some will pull apart everything they say and spin it to whatever point suits their own personal perspective and argument, but that's happening anyway through their silence.  Lesser of two evils, IMO!     

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #96 on: November 01, 2011, 02:31:59 PM »
The only reason people want to hear from them is so that they have the opportunity to tell them they're wrong and how things would be so much better if they did it their way.

I'd be interested to know how much of his money the critics think Randy should be putting into the club.

If he hadn't let O'Neill waste such a vast amount, and we hadn't made nearly £90m worth of losses in two years, and if he'd increased revenues substantially from other means, perhaps we could at least have spent more of the money we received from the sales of Young and Downing.

We spent a reasonable amount but by current standards by no means "vast". However, you're avoiding the question. Some of it could have been spent on better players but then equally some of it could have been on worse.

However, the question was about now. We're not going to attract much new sponsorship in the present climate, the same goes for new fans so how much are you suggesting he spends?

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #97 on: November 01, 2011, 02:56:20 PM »
The only reason people want to hear from them is so that they have the opportunity to tell them they're wrong and how things would be so much better if they did it their way.

I'd be interested to know how much of his money the critics think Randy should be putting into the club.

Chris for me it's not so much the money - I can't fault him although him giving MON free reign was ridiculous.

It's the debarcle of appointing Houllier, then paying him off, then martinez turning us down then paying Small Heath compo for a manager they would have sacked by Christmas.


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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #98 on: November 01, 2011, 03:42:26 PM »
The only reason people want to hear from them is so that they have the opportunity to tell them they're wrong and how things would be so much better if they did it their way.

I'd be interested to know how much of his money the critics think Randy should be putting into the club.

Chris for me it's not so much the money - I can't fault him although him giving MON free reign was ridiculous.

It's the debarcle of appointing Houllier, then paying him off, then martinez turning us down then paying Small Heath compo for a manager they would have sacked by Christmas.



1. Houllier had a serious illness and therefore had to leave the job.
2. Martinez was never even spoken to or interviewed , far from being offered the job.
3. Who is to say blues would have sacked mcleish , he got them back up last time.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #99 on: November 01, 2011, 04:32:19 PM »
2. Martinez was never even spoken to or interviewed , far from being offered the job.

He said Martinez turned us down, which is true in the sense that Martinez declined to be considered when we approached Whelan and he let Martinez decide himself.


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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #100 on: November 01, 2011, 05:14:23 PM »
2. Martinez was never even spoken to or interviewed , far from being offered the job.



He said Martinez turned us down, which is true in the sense that Martinez declined to be considered when we approached Whelan and he let Martinez decide himself.

So he didn't turn us down then, he opted out talking to us.  'Turning us down' implies he was offered something to turn down which he wasn't. 

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #101 on: November 01, 2011, 05:15:58 PM »
It's amusing (in a sad way) how Smithy assumes to know what people would do if Randy were to address the fans, and what their motivations are for wanting him to do so.   He seems to know our minds much better than we do.  He must have his psychic antennae on again. 

For the record I don't think RL should be criticised for his spending levels.  He does deserve criticism for the way much of that spend was allowed to be wasted.   

Oh and Smithy you've used much worse insults on here than fool or idiot so spare us the precious act.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #102 on: November 01, 2011, 06:19:23 PM »
When you say wool - was that a play on words in reference to the scarfs supplied also?
There was nothing woollen about those scarves - they were 100% acrylic!

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #103 on: November 01, 2011, 06:29:34 PM »
2. There might be a bit more to the Martinez story than has broken cover so far.

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Re: Have we seen the last of Mr. Lerner and the General?
« Reply #104 on: November 01, 2011, 06:30:37 PM »
2. There might be a bit more to the Martinez story than has broken cover so far.
Any idea what?

 


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