Quote from: citizenDJ on October 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 29, 2011, 05:01:31 PMHoullier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem. Yeah, this is an interesting point and one that I agree with. I went from blaming the players wholly, to thinking Houllier was just not able to work with them (after the players all came out and bitched) to where I am now, which is that actually, I trust my initial feeling about it - I just don't think the defenders are any good, and I don't think they're professional enough to develop (old dogs and new tricks, maybe?).Reminds me of the lunatics running the assylum (intended spelling)
Quote from: ozzjim on October 29, 2011, 05:01:31 PMHoullier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem. Yeah, this is an interesting point and one that I agree with. I went from blaming the players wholly, to thinking Houllier was just not able to work with them (after the players all came out and bitched) to where I am now, which is that actually, I trust my initial feeling about it - I just don't think the defenders are any good, and I don't think they're professional enough to develop (old dogs and new tricks, maybe?).
Houllier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem.
Quote from: Rigadon on October 29, 2011, 05:07:42 PMQuote from: citizenDJ on October 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 29, 2011, 05:01:31 PMHoullier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem. Yeah, this is an interesting point and one that I agree with. I went from blaming the players wholly, to thinking Houllier was just not able to work with them (after the players all came out and bitched) to where I am now, which is that actually, I trust my initial feeling about it - I just don't think the defenders are any good, and I don't think they're professional enough to develop (old dogs and new tricks, maybe?).Reminds me of the lunatics running the assylum (spelling intended)Huh?
Quote from: citizenDJ on October 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 29, 2011, 05:01:31 PMHoullier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem. Yeah, this is an interesting point and one that I agree with. I went from blaming the players wholly, to thinking Houllier was just not able to work with them (after the players all came out and bitched) to where I am now, which is that actually, I trust my initial feeling about it - I just don't think the defenders are any good, and I don't think they're professional enough to develop (old dogs and new tricks, maybe?).Reminds me of the lunatics running the assylum (spelling intended)
Quote from: oldtimernow on October 29, 2011, 05:12:03 PMQuote from: Rigadon on October 29, 2011, 05:07:42 PMQuote from: citizenDJ on October 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 29, 2011, 05:01:31 PMHoullier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem. Yeah, this is an interesting point and one that I agree with. I went from blaming the players wholly, to thinking Houllier was just not able to work with them (after the players all came out and bitched) to where I am now, which is that actually, I trust my initial feeling about it - I just don't think the defenders are any good, and I don't think they're professional enough to develop (old dogs and new tricks, maybe?).Reminds me of the lunatics running the assylum (spelling intended)Huh?sorry meant to be mine
Did'nt see the game butlistened to it on the radio. Positives for me were: Herd....could have the athletic, quick, aggressive defensive midfielder we have been looking for the last 5 years. N'Zog.....only 24, growing into the team according to the radio, he is our mecurial player who we need to open teams up. Bannan and Jenas.......will probably be 2 of our 1st choice midfielders in the next few weeks, so can only get better. What worries me is the obvious.Why can't Collins, Dunne and Heskey win a header in the last minute.Collins is there for one reason, and in the last 2 weeks he has been responsible for at least 2 goals.He is a liability apart from his defending, so if hes not doing that then he should'nt be picked. I might be over optimistic, but i think we have a developing team that will get better and better.Bannan, Herd, N'Zog, Clarke, Gabby, all under 25, all key players.
Quote from: Rigadon on October 29, 2011, 05:13:17 PMQuote from: oldtimernow on October 29, 2011, 05:12:03 PMQuote from: Rigadon on October 29, 2011, 05:07:42 PMQuote from: citizenDJ on October 29, 2011, 05:05:11 PMQuote from: ozzjim on October 29, 2011, 05:01:31 PMHoullier was never the problem, the players he clearly wanted rid of were the problem. Yeah, this is an interesting point and one that I agree with. I went from blaming the players wholly, to thinking Houllier was just not able to work with them (after the players all came out and bitched) to where I am now, which is that actually, I trust my initial feeling about it - I just don't think the defenders are any good, and I don't think they're professional enough to develop (old dogs and new tricks, maybe?).Reminds me of the lunatics running the assylum (spelling intended)Huh?sorry meant to be mineNo probs OTN.
Did albrighton play? I'm seriously worried about that lad tbh