Bannan arrested following M1 car crash (now suspended by AVFC)

[Gulf Villa]

The cynic in me, wonders if Herds red card appeal result had been known, prior to this announcement, of his suspension ?

[Clampy]

The cynic in me, wonders if Herds red card appeal result had been known, prior to this announcement, of his suspension ?

They probably had a good feeling it would get overturned, but there's nothing cynical about it.

[Chris Smith]

The cynic in me, wonders if Herds red card appeal result had been known, prior to this announcement, of his suspension ?

What difference would it make, they're not on competition for the same place, totally different type of players.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

I think everyone accepts that drink driving is wrong but here are degrees of wrongness. There are a lot of people who have one or two drinks believing they'll be ok but fail a breath test yet other people are ok after the same.

No difference of degree if someone is killed by a driver who has had 2 pints or 8. It's the same end result.
I take your point that some peoples tolerance is different and this can vary the result of a breath test, and perhaps their ability to drive.
Britain has  the highest legal limit for the breath test in Europe along with Luxembourg at 0.08%, most countries are between 0.05% and 0.02%, or zero. The simplest way to eliminate inconsistencies regarding tolerance is to have a zero percent alcohol limit. That is what they have in Russia. Iceland, and a number of East European states.

[oldtimernow]

Are we in a position to take the moral high ground?

We're always in a position to take the moral high ground. It's what we do.

And may we continue to do so in the amoral world of premiership football...

compare it with the approach of a certain London club which may turn out to be more successful but certainly not better than us

[N'ZMAV]

I'm in a position to take the moral high ground when it comes to drink driving, I've never done it, and I'm sure Mr Bannan can afford a taxi to and from wherever a lot easier than I can.

[Chris Smith]

I'm in a position to take the moral high ground when it comes to drink driving, I've never done it, and I'm sure Mr Bannan can afford a taxi to and from wherever a lot easier than I can.

H e you ever broken a speed limit, gambled on a red light, used s phone whole driving etc.

Drink driving is wrong but so are plenty of things and in this rush to take the moral high ground I think we should take heed of the line about he who us without sin.

[kippaxvilla2]

Really disappointed with Bannan whatever he was up too, what was doing out all night?
To be a top player like he could be im afraid its something that cant be done at that level.

What was he doing out all night?  Are you for real?  He is a young bloke, probably a bit immature and irresponsible, I think they call it being young.  Stupid yes, an unfathomable occurrence, no.

[N'ZMAV]

I'm in a position to take the moral high ground when it comes to drink driving, I've never done it, and I'm sure Mr Bannan can afford a taxi to and from wherever a lot easier than I can.

H e you ever broken a speed limit, gambled on a red light, used s phone whole driving etc.

Drink driving is wrong but so are plenty of things and in this rush to take the moral high ground I think we should take heed of the line about he who us without sin.

I sin, but I haven't done anything that has caused an 'issue' like this has for Mr Bannan. There lies the difference. I know where the line is. And drink driving is over the line. As it is for most people.

[Summers]

Technically any of the driving laws being broken is over the line. They ARE the line. Breaking the speed limit, using your phone and darting as the light turns red could all lead to an accident too. You can't say drink driving crosses the line, but breaking other law's doesn't.

[olaftab]

H e you ever broken a speed limit, gambled on a red light, used s phone whole driving etc.
Drink driving is wrong but so are plenty of things and in this rush to take the moral high ground I think we should take heed of the line about he who us without sin.

Agree with you comments completely. Whilst I have not done the other I have done all of those things you mention and I  am almost sure everyone I know family, friends and colleagues have  done these things.  All these violations can lead to serious accidents. So glass houses.....

[Small Rodent]

I never drink and drive personally but wonder if suspending him is a little OTT? .

Probably a suspension for breaking a club rule? Being out in the early hours maybe? Bringing the club into disrepute (guilty or innocent)?

[taylorsworkrate]

I think everyone accepts that drink driving is wrong but here are degrees of wrongness. There are a lot of people who have one or two drinks believing they'll be ok but fail a breath test yet other people are ok after the same.

No difference of degree if someone is killed by a driver who has had 2 pints or 8. It's the same end result.
I take your point that some peoples tolerance is different and this can vary the result of a breath test, and perhaps their ability to drive.
Britain has  the highest legal limit for the breath test in Europe along with Luxembourg at 0.08%, most countries are between 0.05% and 0.02%, or zero. The simplest way to eliminate inconsistencies regarding tolerance is to have a zero percent alcohol limit. That is what they have in Russia. Iceland, and a number of East European states.

Absolutely bang on.

Zero tolerance to consuming alcohol then driving is really the only option.

[LeeB]

I think everyone accepts that drink driving is wrong but here are degrees of wrongness. There are a lot of people who have one or two drinks believing they'll be ok but fail a breath test yet other people are ok after the same.

No difference of degree if someone is killed by a driver who has had 2 pints or 8. It's the same end result.
I take your point that some peoples tolerance is different and this can vary the result of a breath test, and perhaps their ability to drive.
Britain has  the highest legal limit for the breath test in Europe along with Luxembourg at 0.08%, most countries are between 0.05% and 0.02%, or zero. The simplest way to eliminate inconsistencies regarding tolerance is to have a zero percent alcohol limit. That is what they have in Russia. Iceland, and a number of East European states.

Absolutely bang on.

Zero tolerance to consuming alcohol then driving is really the only option.

I agree, the current system just dangles enough rope for people to hang themselves with

[john e]

As far as I'm concerned there is a big difference between doing 33 in a 30 limitand drinking 8 pints then driving,
I'm not specifically talking about Bannan here, just saying there are different degrees of wrongness even though they can all be ilegal