Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[TimTheVillain]

Making that lot look like Barcelona is VERY concerning.

Long balls to Bent's head and taken like candy from a baby by the defender all day long s just not good enough.

I can't even name a department in the team that looks any good, so where to start ?

Poor gate, poor display, poor Management, complete lack of direction on and off the pitch = Villa 2011.

Optimism can only carry the most ardent fans so far, action needed.

[pauliewalnuts]

Bollocks back at you if you think there was anything remarkable about us prior to the sending off.

It was be same unimaginativeness we've seen for much of the season. Petrov was the only midfielder who seemed to be entirely awake.

As for N'Zogbia, you could be forgiven for not realising he was on the pitch until he scuttled off.

The response to the sending off was pathetic. It is also frankly terrifying to see the reemergence of last season's comedic defending of set pieces.

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Poor on so many levels.

One shot - a penalty - in 90 minutes.


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Bent should have scored from 8 yards out and wee Barry was a few inches away from a pealer.

And then Herd was sent off. Which apparently irrelevant to some.

Death to McLeish and other such shite.

[pauliewalnuts]

Who has said the red card was irrelevant?

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm sure the linesman had his flag up for that Bent shot (doesn't excuse Bent missing it though). I just assumed that because the ball went out of play anyway they just played on rather than give the free kick.

[MarkM]

I'm going to give a bit of balance on the red card...

I watched part of the incident and saw herds leg swing up and it did look to me like a stamp. My initial reaction was to see if the linesman had seen it.

As soon as I saw him flag I said herd was on his way. My view was in direct line from the Trinity upper and it looked a bloody stupid tackle by Herd.

With the linesman only seeing it once I'm not surprised he was sent off

NZog was almost invisible again, so we played with 9 men for a large part of the game

[PeterWithesShin]

I'm going to give a bit of balance on the red card...

I watched part of the incident and saw herds leg swing up and it did look to me like a stamp. My initial reaction was to see if the linesman had seen it.

As soon as I saw him flag I said herd was on his way. My view was in direct line from the Trinity upper and it looked a bloody stupid tackle by Herd.

With the linesman only seeing it once I'm not surprised he was sent off

NZog was almost invisible again, so we played with 9 men for a large part of the game

8 if you include Bent.

[taylorsworkrate]

I don't think anyone has said the sending off was irrelevant.

I think the anger is with the way we just rolled over after it.

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Who has said the red card was irrelevant?

Greg Nash for a start and all those who believe that it was balanced up with Hutton staying on.

A major blunder was made and it affected us in a massive, massive way.

Its all quite simple. We went from being very comfortable to being very disjointed, with Blakey being able to stick even more men in the midfield for most of the second half.

[CJ]

Even after an hour's drive back,lots of thinking time, and a large glass of wine, I just don't know where to begin with that. Edging it prior to a very dubious red card (thank-you 'assistant referee'), but maybe Hutton should have gone anyway for his tackle on Long. West Brom played pretty well - Tchoiy was a real handful and couldn't understand why uncle Woy didn't start with him.  What's really worrying was the lack of fight in the second half. OK it was 10 v 11, so change to 4-4-1 and hold onto the ball more. But we just couldn't do the simple stuff. No shots on target at home in a local derby. Conceding from set pieces. Baffling substitutions - if you can't get service to Bent take him off and get some creativity in midfield rather than watch Heskey ambling around. If N'Zogbia and Hutton are the standard of our signings now I really fear for the future. We look a very poor side.

[spangley1812]

I was in the lower Holte and could see the incident clearly, Olsson had hold of Herds foot and Herd was trying to free himself, it was never a sending off.

Olsson was on 5-Live after and said that Herd had kicked/back heeled him he never used the word stamp and he should know   

It was a definate penalty

[Greg N'Ash]

Who has said the red card was irrelevant?

Greg Nash for a start and all those who believe that it was balanced up with Hutton staying on.

A major blunder was made and it affected us in a massive, massive way.

Its all quite simple. We went from being very comfortable to being very disjointed, with Blakey being able to stick even more men in the midfield for most of the second half.

Who has said the red card was irrelevant?

Greg Nash for a start and all those who believe that it was balanced up with Hutton staying on.

A major blunder was made and it affected us in a massive, massive way.

Its all quite simple. We went from being very comfortable to being very disjointed, with Blakey being able to stick even more men in the midfield for most of the second half.

So we wouldn't have been disjointed if Hutton had got sent off? We got lucky on one decision and unlucky on the other. Unless your saying Herd is our star player??

[Ennis]

I seem to remember that when we played them in sandwell last year, they seemed to cope alright with their 10 men against our 11

[spangley1812]

As for N'Zogbia well the less said the better.....................

[TheSandman]

Who has said the red card was irrelevant?

Greg Nash for a start and all those who believe that it was balanced up with Hutton staying on.

A major blunder was made and it affected us in a massive, massive way.

Its all quite simple. We went from being very comfortable to being very disjointed, with Blakey being able to stick even more men in the midfield for most of the second half.

Who has said the red card was irrelevant?

Greg Nash for a start and all those who believe that it was balanced up with Hutton staying on.

A major blunder was made and it affected us in a massive, massive way.

Its all quite simple. We went from being very comfortable to being very disjointed, with Blakey being able to stick even more men in the midfield for most of the second half.

So we wouldn't have been disjointed if Hutton had got sent off? We got lucky on one decision and unlucky on the other. Unless your saying Herd is our star player??

Herd did well. Hutton was shit. Had Hutton been sent off it would have had much less of an effect.