Aston Villa v Tesco Bags Post-Match Thread

[Iago]

As as it went 1-1 you just knew that was the end of us trying to win the game.
I fully expected us to lock up shop, defend deep and hope to scrape a draw.
Thats what our manager has done to us. With 45 mins left, I just knew there was no chance of us even trying to win the game.
Today is a real wake up call for me.
We don't want to compete anymore, we exist to exist. As a force we are dead, we'll never win anything againg we are just another team who muddle along and then celebrate the odd win against the big boys like we have a won a cup final - just like the baggies today.
That is our future.

I feel quite the same. To be honest, I am starting to get emotionally detached from the club and I suspect other fans are beginning to feel the same. There needs to be serious changes at the top to stop this slide.

[Nev]

When Mcleish came in I predicted poor results, poor football and poor attendances... hate to say I told you so Randy. I guess there are thousands of other Villa fans now thinking along similar lines. Dreadful today and overall a very poor start to the season. Once we get hammered by Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd we will really be in trouble.

I remain convinced we'll be in the bottom three at Xmas.

Has Martin Laursen got his coaching badges yet? He'd be the ideal rescue man when Mcleish goes in the new year.

Almost every Villa fan is angry and frustrated at the moment, but then they were angry and frustrated in July. Because almost every Villa fan could see this coming, and steel yourselves, it's going to get a lot fuckin' worse than this.

[Holtenderinthesky]

when Mcleish goes in the new year.

Now that is seriously optomistic.

1, It's the best job he is ever likely to get and so will not walk.

2, We have already spent millions tapping him up in the first place so cannot afford to sack him.

3, Randy knows that there is no manager of any decent standard that would work under the limitations currently in place.  That's how why got the useless numpty in the first place.

No, Alex McLeish is here for a while sadly.

[Holtenderinthesky]

when Mcleish goes in the new year.

Now that is seriously optomistic.

1, It's the best job he is ever likely to get and so will not walk.

2, We have already spent millions tapping him up in the first place so cannot afford to sack him.

3, Randy knows that there is no manager of any decent standard that would work under the limitations currently in place.  That's how why got the useless numpty in the first place.

No, Alex McLeish is here for a while sadly.

[Nev]

Almost every Villa fan is angry and frustrated at the moment, but then they were angry and frustrated in July. Because almost every Villa fan could see this coming, and steel yourselves, it's going to get a lot fuckin' worse than this.

[wombat]

The sending off turned the game no question.

Dowd is undoubtedly a useless prick and we should do a Ferguson and just object everytime he is put as our referee.

I cannot however excuse the gutless, pathetic efforts we showed after the sending off though. To concede from a bog standard set piece on the stroke of half time is criminal, and then again in the 2nd half just isn't good enough.

Albion didn't even have to work for the points. We put no pressure on them when they had the ball, we just laid down and died.

Sadly we don't have many technically gifted players and we seem to have even fewer who are willing to put in a shift. N'Zogbia and Heskey.... jesus christ boys at least look fucking interested.

Not being the most technically gifted team in the league I can deal with, a lack of effort I just can't and that is what I see at the moment, too many players who just don't give a shit.

I'm not sure why the uproar about the Hutton challenge though, we were in line with it in the Witton Lane stand and Hutton got to the ball well before Long, kicked it against him and his follow through caught Long. None of the Albion players seemed bothered, nor the useless tit Dowd. Everyone around and including me just thought it was a good solid challenge.

[Iago]

As as it went 1-1 you just knew that was the end of us trying to win the game.
I fully expected us to lock up shop, defend deep and hope to scrape a draw.
Thats what our manager has done to us. With 45 mins left, I just knew there was no chance of us even trying to win the game.
Today is a real wake up call for me.
We don't want to compete anymore, we exist to exist. As a force we are dead, we'll never win anything againg we are just another team who muddle along and then celebrate the odd win against the big boys like we have a won a cup final - just like the baggies today.
That is our future.

I feel quite the same. To be honest, I am starting to get emotionally detached from the club and I suspect other fans are beginning to feel the same. There needs to be serious changes at the top to stop this slide.

[ktvillan]

Let's not kid ourselves that Dowd to or the linesman are to blame here, the sending off was dubious to say the least but it merely balanced out the decision not to red card Hutton for a leg-breaker of a lunge on Long.  And let's not pretend it's all Heskey's fault either.  I felt he actually did okay considering he was asked to do something bizarrely unusual for him.  The truth is our old propensity to defend appalingly at set pieces re-merged at Eastlands last week and continued this week.  Ditto our tendency to fail utterly to hold on to the ball for more than two passes.  And as mentioned earlier, other teams manage to make a fight of it when down to 10 men (we managed to lose to WBA last year and drop two points to QPR after both had been reduced to 10 men) yet we just go into flap mode and effectively concede defeat. After a gentle yet uninspiring start to the season Mcleish  is beginning to be found out I fear.   N'Zogbia has contributed little or nothing so far but according to him he needs to be played on the left wing to be effective.  Perhaps McLeish should consider it.  A special mention for two players, Hutton who managed to make Warnock's most brainless, self-destructive performances look Einsteinian in comparison to his moronic contribution today, and Warnock, who I generally think is shit, but who I thought showed a lot of commitment and not a little skill today.

[lukey27]

Anybody who thinks the sending off didn't change things is living in cloud cuckoo land. We couldn't get the ball at times in the second half but when we had it we didn't use it well enough.

Their first goal was crucial and today we've conceded two poor goals from set plays. We didn't lack passion or fight, we lacked genuine nous when we were in possession with 10 men. I'd have brought Clark on in midfield, but he never and we lost.

It's not the first time a linesman has got involved in a big decision, but it certainly changed the game.

[garyshawsknee]

Almost every Villa fan is angry and frustrated at the moment, but then they were angry and frustrated in July. Because almost every Villa fan could see this coming, and steel yourselves, it's going to get a lot fuckin' worse than this.

Yep,you didnt need a crystal ball to predict this.

[pauliewalnuts]

Barely adequate until the sending off, then utterly all over the shop after. I can maybe just - just - about see some reason to bring Heskey on in midfield at 1-1 if he thinks he'd stiffen us up, but why when we are losing 2-1?

Hutton - who continues to be fucking abysmal - was lucky not to get sent off. The defence looked like they'd reverted to last season.

We are a pretty poor football side, with a squad lacking in strength, and with a manager who is soon going to start to feel the pressure if we don't start winning games.

Another abysmal crowd and an owner absolutely nowhere to be seen,and a growing sense of doom about the place. Villa Park these days screams mediocrity, and itbs going to get much worse.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Only good thing about today? The return of The Beard - welcome back Olof's Beard.

[Greg N'Ash]

As someone said earlier, loads of teams get players sent off, They don't automatically turn to shite when it happens though. Often the opposite in fact

[Ads]

As someone said earlier, loads of teams get players sent off, They don't automatically turn to shite when it happens though. Often the opposite in fact

It happens all the while.

We were the better side when Herd was on. Bollocks to all this "barely adequote" shite. After the sending off, we were disjointed and poor.

[TopDeck113]

Poor on so many levels.

One shot - a penalty - in 90 minutes.


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