Boring Boring Football

[Chris Smith]

Boycotting all televised games would be funny.

And are we suggesting that forty quid is acceptable to charge away fans for a game we are giving away?

We're not exactly giving it away, people are having to commit to going for the rest of the season to take advantage of the offer so all they're doing is spreading that cost over 11 games instead of 10.

Of course it's too much but paying Darren Bent's wages requires us to be run as a business not a philanthropic organisation. We're complaining about football being uncompetitive and asking for cheaper seats than our competitors. There's a contradiction in there.

[Chris Smith]

Some of my best memories at Villa park were the European nights.Juventus in particular, at the back of the Holte when Cowans scored with a diving header to make it 1-2 (sure it was Cowans), my Dad nearly swallowed his cigarette with the surge forward.
I'll take 'mildly embarrased' all day long to see the cream of Europe back at Villa Park again and to lift the FA cup once more, in fact, to be honest, I really wouldnt give a shit.

It's this attitude which has been exploited and allowed the situation football finds itself in.

If we lifted the FA Cup using the means that Citeh have, it wouldn't mean dick to me.

So if Sheikh Loadsadosh came along with the promise of a few hundred million quid to invest in the team you would say, keep your money raghead,we are above all that! I think you would find yourself in the minority.

Is there any need for you to use racist language to make your point?

[andyh]

Some of my best memories at Villa park were the European nights.Juventus in particular, at the back of the Holte when Cowans scored with a diving header to make it 1-2 (sure it was Cowans), my Dad nearly swallowed his cigarette with the surge forward.
I'll take 'mildly embarrased' all day long to see the cream of Europe back at Villa Park again and to lift the FA cup once more, in fact, to be honest, I really wouldnt give a shit.

It's this attitude which has been exploited and allowed the situation football finds itself in.

If we lifted the FA Cup using the means that Citeh have, it wouldn't mean dick to me.

So if Sheikh Loadsadosh came along with the promise of a few hundred million quid to invest in the team you would say, keep your money raghead,we are above all that! I think you would find yourself in the minority.

Raghead ?
That speaks volumes about you

[Gazza1982]

Absolutely none whatsoever Chris, you are totally right...guess I'm out of my depth once more, a million apologies and may the fleas of a thousand camels never infest your loins.

[VillaZogmariner]

Absolutely none whatsoever Chris, you are totally right...guess I'm out of my depth once more, a million apologies and may the fleas of a thousand camels never infest your loins.

You really are a knob.

[Gazza1982]

Cheers Zog...by the way,I am English white and have been married to a black lady for nearly 10 years, so I'm the last person you could call being racist. Point taken about the 'raghead' comment...should know better, just trying to get the point across that I cant see any Villa fan turning his nose up at anyone offering to make a Man City type of investment into the club.

[QBVILLA]

Some of my best memories at Villa park were the European nights.Juventus in particular, at the back of the Holte when Cowans scored with a diving header to make it 1-2 (sure it was Cowans), my Dad nearly swallowed his cigarette with the surge forward.
I'll take 'mildly embarrased' all day long to see the cream of Europe back at Villa Park again and to lift the FA cup once more, in fact, to be honest, I really wouldnt give a shit.

It's this attitude which has been exploited and allowed the situation football finds itself in.

If we lifted the FA Cup using the means that Citeh have, it wouldn't mean dick to me.

I don't share that opinion.Any trophy win by whatever means would be cherished by me.

[remy]

My kids are getting cheesed off with the whole thing. Since Man City have come to prominence with their unlimited funds their passion for AVFC is diminishing rapidly. We keep selling our best players every year.  Disappointment etched on their faces. We have a very very average side. We have no chance of winning the league. They ask me if they can go saturday vs an average side and its £70-£80 and I say no, cant justify it.

There seems to be a general erosion of "football" as we knew it and especially this season. I try to make them see that when we go now, the only thing to think about is cheering on our team scoring goals to get us into the next round or winning the 3 points.

[cheltenhamlion]

I do worry as to how I sell the idea of following a Villa who will never win a thing to my one year old when he grows.

[eastie]

my only hope is that we get a freak cup season like pompey did recently and get a decent draw all the way to wembley avoiding the big guns and a final against a lower division team.

[Concrete John]

Going slightly off topic here, does anyone else thing there is a bit of a football revolution heading our way?  In the last week we've had the Liverpool idea of keeping overseas TV rights and then the no relegation thing.  The idea of a European Super League simply won't go away and if you think Scudamore has given up on the 39th game, think again.

Those in power within football, both at the clubs and in the FA/UEFA, earn vast sums of money and need to justify their salaries.  Simply 'ticking along' does not do that, so they will try to innovate where they can and up the revenue, hence all the ideas we're hearing.  Money talks, and eventually I see something sticking with a huge change in the structure of the game coming from it, similar to the original creation of the Premier League.

I very much doubt it'll be change for the better, but I do feel a change is coming.

[Dave Cooper please]

Cheers Zog...by the way,I am English white and have been married to a black lady for nearly 10 years,

And yet you still come out with casual racism? She must be proud.

[ktvillan]

Some thoughts on the above.

Whoever made the point about 7 subs makes a very good point.  It's probably a big reason why the richer clubs accumulate and can accommodate larger squads and hog all the better players.

I thought I was getting fed up of football but watched the Newcastle Spuds game as I had nothing better to and to my surprise I thoroughly enjoyed it. I'd just like to see Villa having a good go like that more often, that would at least be some entertainment.

I don't completely buy into the inevitability line re the loss to Citeh.  Fact is we wasted a good chance early on and it looked to me like it was shite and sloppy defending rather any Citeh brilliance that that allowed them to cruise into a three goal lead and then take the piss.  Other so-called lesser teams have given them a much tougher time than we did, and will do so again.   

Any success Citeh have (or Chelsea) must feel at least parlty like a hollow victory - it's like paying for a shag, it wouldn't make you feel like a stud, just a bit sad and cheap.  Then again it's better than no shag I suppose.  Shame we can't afford a two-bob back alley job at the moment.

Predictability - the top 3 and top 6, after 8 games, are pretty much as everyone would have expected bar Newcastle having a good start and Arsenal having a stinker by their standards. Same last year except it was Liverpool struggling at the start.

[dave.woodhall]

I do worry as to how I sell the idea of following a Villa who will never win a thing to my one year old when he grows.

As opposed to the massive success we've had over the past hundred years?

[Gazza1982]

Isnt there some ruling coming in soon that clubs will only be allowed to buy within their means. By that, I mean that a club will only be allowed to spend according to the revenue they generate.Chelski regularly post multi million losses but still spend heavily,cos they have Abram to constantly bail them out.I am sure that under new proposed UEFA regulation they wouldnt be allowed to do that. Wouldnt affect the mega clubs much(mainly due to far east shirt sales) but it would level out the playing field somewhat.