Quote from: Risso on October 09, 2011, 07:40:12 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on October 09, 2011, 06:59:54 PMBlimey, now buying "Beye" is money wasted in the most "hideous and wanton manner imaginable".I agree it was a poor signing but some perspective please. There's an increasing tendency to overstate arguments with hyperbolic language and the result is polarised and unproductive discussions.Your debating style gets worse by the day. I didn't even mention Beye, so to suggest that the money I was talking about being wasted was only on him, and then telling me to get some perspective based on your completely incorrect interpretation is ridiculous. You're either being dim or setting yourself up as the new Coopers Injury to get a reaction.Oh come off it, you're just deflecting now. You've often been way over the top in your choice of language but each post now seems an attempt to outdo your previous efforts. I'd expect to see phrases like "most hideous and wanton manner imagineable" in a debate about war or famine not a football clubs transfer policy. The truth is some money was well spent, some less so. The overall amount was, in my view, not enough considering where we started from to put us in a position where finishing sixth could be classed as a major underachievement.
Quote from: Chris Smith on October 09, 2011, 06:59:54 PMBlimey, now buying "Beye" is money wasted in the most "hideous and wanton manner imaginable".I agree it was a poor signing but some perspective please. There's an increasing tendency to overstate arguments with hyperbolic language and the result is polarised and unproductive discussions.Your debating style gets worse by the day. I didn't even mention Beye, so to suggest that the money I was talking about being wasted was only on him, and then telling me to get some perspective based on your completely incorrect interpretation is ridiculous. You're either being dim or setting yourself up as the new Coopers Injury to get a reaction.
Blimey, now buying "Beye" is money wasted in the most "hideous and wanton manner imaginable".I agree it was a poor signing but some perspective please. There's an increasing tendency to overstate arguments with hyperbolic language and the result is polarised and unproductive discussions.
Quote from: John M'Zog on October 10, 2011, 01:45:01 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on October 10, 2011, 01:35:53 PMClubs don't exist in a bubble. We know more about others now than we ever did, so if their employees are well-known to their own supporter,s chances are that they'll be well-known to others. The CEOs of the three most successful clubs of the past twenty years aren't. That's the point.I'd imagine every Villa fan can, or at least should be able to, name our chief executive. I'd be very surprised if fans of other clubs, certainly those outside the Midlands area, would know the name Paul Faulkner. Why? Becuase it's of no interest to them. I've probably read the names of the guys of at the clubs you mentioned dozens of times this year alone in the papers or heard them mentioned/interviewed on tele, yet I would not recall them as they simply do not interest me. I'd imagine the same of Faulkner no matter how much, how regularly or how well he communicates with us. You expect someone to be very well-known to us, but not to anyone else? I think that's a bit unlikely. I do agree that we need to sharpen up the PR, but we had one central figurehead before and look where that got us. We should also maybe remember that during the days when Randy was being lionized, one of the things he was congratulated for was his low media profile. It might appear a bit of a volte face to now say he should be in the press all the time. Besides, as Chris says, what could he or anyone else say that wouldn't be picked to pieces?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on October 10, 2011, 01:35:53 PMClubs don't exist in a bubble. We know more about others now than we ever did, so if their employees are well-known to their own supporter,s chances are that they'll be well-known to others. The CEOs of the three most successful clubs of the past twenty years aren't. That's the point.I'd imagine every Villa fan can, or at least should be able to, name our chief executive. I'd be very surprised if fans of other clubs, certainly those outside the Midlands area, would know the name Paul Faulkner. Why? Becuase it's of no interest to them. I've probably read the names of the guys of at the clubs you mentioned dozens of times this year alone in the papers or heard them mentioned/interviewed on tele, yet I would not recall them as they simply do not interest me. I'd imagine the same of Faulkner no matter how much, how regularly or how well he communicates with us.
Clubs don't exist in a bubble. We know more about others now than we ever did, so if their employees are well-known to their own supporter,s chances are that they'll be well-known to others. The CEOs of the three most successful clubs of the past twenty years aren't. That's the point.
Faulkner's lack of communication wih the fans is but one of many shortcomings. I struggle to think of anything that has gone right since he became chief executive. When you have an inexperienced owner giving jobs to his friends regardless of their suitability for the position, in my expereince it's not a recipe for success.
Quote from: Risso on October 10, 2011, 03:36:06 PMFaulkner's lack of communication wih the fans is but one of many shortcomings. I struggle to think of anything that has gone right since he became chief executive. When you have an inexperienced owner giving jobs to his friends regardless of their suitability for the position, in my expereince it's not a recipe for success.Exactly what is his background does anyone know? I have asked this loads of times before.
This is PF's CV :-Chief ExecutiveAston Villa Football ClubPrivately Held; Sports industryMay 2010 – Present (1 year 6 months)Chief Operating OfficerAston Villa Football ClubPrivately Held; Sports industryMay 2008 – April 2010 (2 years)Relationship ManagerMBNAPublic Company; 10,001+ employees; BAC; Banking industry1999 – 2004 (5 years)EducationUniversity of CambridgeMA, History1997 – 2000
Quote from: TimTheVillain on October 10, 2011, 03:59:56 PMThis is PF's CV :-Chief ExecutiveAston Villa Football ClubPrivately Held; Sports industryMay 2010 – Present (1 year 6 months)Chief Operating OfficerAston Villa Football ClubPrivately Held; Sports industryMay 2008 – April 2010 (2 years)Relationship ManagerMBNAPublic Company; 10,001+ employees; BAC; Banking industry1999 – 2004 (5 years)EducationUniversity of CambridgeMA, History1997 – 2000So it looks suspiciously like he went straight from university to be a customer care manager at MBNA, and from there to Villa. He's no more experience or suitability for the job than that airhead Mansfield Town appointed a couple of weeks back.
Quote from: Risso on October 10, 2011, 03:36:06 PMFaulkner's lack of communication wih the fans is but one of many shortcomings. I struggle to think of anything that has gone right since he became chief executive. When you have an inexperienced owner giving jobs to his friends regardless of their suitability for the position, in my expereince it's not a recipe for success.To Villa, marketing is the signs around the ground, the emails, the ST packs, the shirt prices etc, it's not about the football side of things I don't think, and yes, we do need that.
As usual, that's complete bollocks from you. I said that we've wasted a large amount of money, and whether you agree or not, to try and paint as that as some somment about Habib Beye is utterly childish, stupid and downright ridiculous, which is par for the course for you these days. If we havaen't wasted such mo much money, particularly on high wages for underperforming and rubbish players, why is that we're now undergoing a period of austerity that makes George Osborne look like Father Christmas?
Risso, your George Osborne studied modern history at university and has no experience in finance yet he's Chancellor of the Exchequer.
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