Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Lowendbehold]

We're shit. McLeish out. (and yes i would have said the same if we'd won 1-0 because we were diabolical yet again and didn't have a shot on target in open play).

Get a grip mate we were 2 mins from being 5th

I think that says quite a lot about the standard of the Premier League.

Actually I think the standard is quite good.  Just that there's not a lot of difference between 4th and 20 th.  Pity about the moneybags in the first 3 spots.

[AV82EC]

Collins - 3 - Shit

I thought he did OK, by and large. In fact, i think he and Dunne have done very well this season, they actually instil some confidence in me.

Our problem is going to be the full backs.

Warnock showed us at times today how he tends to drop clangers, go charging in both feet up, and give away free kicks needlessly in dangerous areas.

Hutton has looked absolutely shit since we signed him. Like the manager let one of the players bring a mate to fill in at right back.

We'll have to agree to disagree Paulie, I've come to the conclusion hes shite.  The full backs look Ok going forwards but you're right that defensively they need to improve. (As will be proved at Man City!)

[ozzjim]

A bunch of observations on the game today...


What the hell was that first half about?  I’m surprised they didn’t have to Shake ‘n’ Vac the pitch at half-time, we absolutely stank the place out.  Surely the lowest point in our recent misery was the sight of Shay time-wasting after half an hour.  That was desperate.

Whatever was said at half time should have been said earlier.  Like in August, for example.  Still, better late than never.  We passed the ball well and kept it, and for the first time this season I felt we were actually in control of a game.  Amazing how much better a midfielder is when the ball is played to his feet rather than blasted into a cloud.  Who’d have thought?

Has anyone been to Stephen Warnock’s house?  Is there a massive hole in the front door?  I can only imagine he comes running at it wildly and smashes through it feet first, without taking a second to think rationally and just get his keys out.

On the other hand, Warnock’s crunching bit of filth on Barton did seem to subdue the tweeting scrote for the rest of the game. 

I’m sick of seeing Petrov trudging off at half-time looking like a contestant on Total Wipeout. 

I’m struggling to remember a worse start to a Villa career than Alan Hutton’s.  He makes Luke Young look like Dani Alves.  Much more of this and Habib Beye might have to play, which would really bloody annoy him. 

The Ferdinand family are a lovely bunch aren’t they?   

Peter Grant stinks of ineptitude.  Seeing him in the dugout is like spotting half a cyanide pill in your burger. I’d be much more comfortable if McLeish had a better assistant.  Grant has a very poor track record – he could join forces with Nigel Quashie and Herman Hreidarsson and launch an aftershave called Relegation. 

I never thought I’d see the day when Gary Neville provided intelligent and insightful analysis on a game of football.  And I still don’t.

On the subject of Neville, do you think if he got in touch with Agent Ridgewell they could get together to form a reasonable attempt at a moustache?

Have you considered a career in stand up comedy.  Post of the Day for me, and the moustache joke nicked for Facebook.

I too thought it was very funny.

The Warnock bit has just made chuckle hard enough to induce coughing.

[Lowendbehold]

Collins - 3 - Shit

I thought he did OK, by and large. In fact, i think he and Dunne have done very well this season, they actually instil some confidence in me.

Our problem is going to be the full backs.

Warnock showed us at times today how he tends to drop clangers, go charging in both feet up, and give away free kicks needlessly in dangerous areas.

Hutton has looked absolutely shit since we signed him. Like the manager let one of the players bring a mate to fill in at right back.

The good thing about Hutton is that Herd and when he's fit Lichej will soon get a chance.

[JJ-AV]

The style of play is making Dunne look better than he is. He is still a liability and he's been at fault for 3 goals in a week.

[usav]

I thought Warnock was great today.   Granted he normally got himself sent off as usual, but notwithstanding that, I thought he played very well.

[PaulTheVillan]

I'm going to keep it simple.

First half? Shit.

Second half? Good.

Result? I'd have taken that before the game.

If we beat Wigan next week, things are looking Ok.

Let's not get too down hearted.

[luke25]

The style of play is making Dunne look better than he is. He is still a liability and he's been at fault for 3 goals in a week.

No way was he at fault for todays

[ROBBO]

Can't understand a minority of posters critisizing some defenders. Hutton aside i thought they all played well. The Zog is a worry, plenry of chances and the player of last year would have had a day out, may it's the way we are set up. Delphs decision making is poor, looked better when played a more forward role needs a quality midfielder along side him. Albrighton had an exellent chance to play Weiman in but got greedy. Thought Gabby ran his legs off for the side.

[Greg N'Ash]

Apart from Given who's been excellant, I think the defence have varied from poor to average to good this season. Better than last season i guess and an improvement in the defence was predicted by many on here once AM was bought in. I just think bringing in a manager to get the best out of Dunne, Warnock, collins and co, isn't much of a plan. You want to get the best out of the quality players not the average journeymen. But i suppose after this summer we haven't got many of the former left.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

It may have escaped you both but we've lost Young, Downing and NRC, our three best players last season. What do you think I should do, throw the towel in and give up? I prefer to support a team that shows battle and grit, basic, traditional Villa values. There was enough today in the second half to give hope that we can finally step up, despite the financial cut backs.

I also have confidence in Sid and especially Kevin McDonald to get us playing the right way, even with our restricted squad. I do wonder what would have been the response on here today if we'd won. My guess is some would have pissed off in a sulk.

Well for someone who was doing their nut when we bought Milner and others but had not bought a striker three seasons ago and appeared to give up posting on here when called against it, it does seem rich to moan about others doing the same when we are in a totally different and in most cases worst position then that time.

Milner? I was bloody delighted when we signed him. I think you have the wrong man. Gave up posting? Now I know you have.

[The Left Side]

Positives - Ireland, Bannan, Warnock and Collins plus we are usually worse in the 2nd half, so it was nice that we improved today.
Negatives - N'Zzzzogbia, the first half performance and throwing the lead away when we had control of the game.

I was for the first time impressed with AM but still he needs to prove to me that his actions are better than his words.

[brontebilly]

Dont really understand the criticism of Hutton. Defensively apart from the goal late on he was solid. Warnock had a decent game too for a change. Collins made a couple of rash tackles but generally solid. What he was at for the goal beggared belief though. Never should a centre half let a punt bounce. From then we were in trouble. Unlucky on Dunne who had a fine game again I thought.

Thought Delph had a decent second half too so not sure what we are attacking him for.

Aside from that, the first half was absolute putrid. We were better certainly in the second half but not by much and considering how shambolic the first half was, it isnt much of a positive anyway. Without the ball we competed well but we seem happier without the ball than with it. Id love to know how many times we strung 5 passes together in the opposition half. Definitely none in the first half. The definition pass and move doesnt seem to register with the Villa player. We pass and stay where we are so the player in possession rarely has any option.

Early days but Nzogbia had another stinker. He was hopeless frankly and should have been subbed long before he was. Ireland needs to get more into the game but at least he competed unlike last season and he is the one Villa player that finds a team mate in possesion. The link play between Gabby, Bannan, Nzogbia and himself is non existent and Id like to see him break into the box more. Bannan had a good spell after half time and was then taken off. Gabby didnt have much to work on but didnt impress me really. Seemed sluggish today and didnt hold it up well.

I dont think a point is a great result but it is all we deserved. QPR quickly ran out of ideas. Barton wasnt in the game. Faurlin was by far the best midfielder on view. Bothroyd was dusted by our centre halves from early on. Taarabt was well shackled too bar the one shot in the first half. QPR looked a very poor side to me. Luke Young did well but even SWP was crap. They defintely need Campbell to start more.

Disappointing not to hold on I suppose when we looked fairly comfortable but frankly the style of football being played is vomit inducing. We seemingly cant string passes together and the players seem on totally different wavelengths. I wasnt overly gone on our second half display either. A phantom penalty really and I cant remember too many other chances.

[Kingthing]

Oh and Loftus Road has replaced Fratton Park at number 1 in my topflight "godforsaken shitholes" league.

I agree, if there was a fire in that away end everyone would die.

[Legion]

A bunch of observations on the game today...


What the hell was that first half about?  I’m surprised they didn’t have to Shake ‘n’ Vac the pitch at half-time, we absolutely stank the place out.  Surely the lowest point in our recent misery was the sight of Shay time-wasting after half an hour.  That was desperate.

Whatever was said at half time should have been said earlier.  Like in August, for example.  Still, better late than never.  We passed the ball well and kept it, and for the first time this season I felt we were actually in control of a game.  Amazing how much better a midfielder is when the ball is played to his feet rather than blasted into a cloud.  Who’d have thought?

Has anyone been to Stephen Warnock’s house?  Is there a massive hole in the front door?  I can only imagine he comes running at it wildly and smashes through it feet first, without taking a second to think rationally and just get his keys out.

On the other hand, Warnock’s crunching bit of filth on Barton did seem to subdue the tweeting scrote for the rest of the game. 

I’m sick of seeing Petrov trudging off at half-time looking like a contestant on Total Wipeout. 

I’m struggling to remember a worse start to a Villa career than Alan Hutton’s.  He makes Luke Young look like Dani Alves.  Much more of this and Habib Beye might have to play, which would really bloody annoy him. 

The Ferdinand family are a lovely bunch aren’t they?   

Peter Grant stinks of ineptitude.  Seeing him in the dugout is like spotting half a cyanide pill in your burger. I’d be much more comfortable if McLeish had a better assistant.  Grant has a very poor track record – he could join forces with Nigel Quashie and Herman Hreidarsson and launch an aftershave called Relegation. 

I never thought I’d see the day when Gary Neville provided intelligent and insightful analysis on a game of football.  And I still don’t.

On the subject of Neville, do you think if he got in touch with Agent Ridgewell they could get together to form a reasonable attempt at a moustache?

Top quality post. Excellent rant.