Queens Park Rangers v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[Risso]

1st half the whole midfield didnt want the ball, Collins and Dunne kept us in that.

2nd half the midfield actually passed and went forward. Bannan, Petrov and Irelands distribution was good. Ireland moves the ball quickly to feet and moves into space but our players are so thick when it comes to football intelligence. Delph wants too much time and N'Zog keeps trying to dribble....into a player instead of just keeping it simple. I think Jenas will come in for Delph.

Gutted with only a point, still reminds me of another typical MON performance but I think we will get a couple of wins in before we start to play the better teams.

I get the impression something is wrong with N'Zogbia, he gets the ball and freezes, never seen that in him before.

Cant fault his work rate, always behind the ball when we were defending but I think he's just trying too hard for that goal or majestic run. Signs are there's a top player in him...I think against Wigan he will bring his "A" game"

What signs?  I think he's awful, and he's no more likely to be any good against Wigan than he was against Newcastle.

[Somniloquism]

Surely Friedal can't be continuing his consecutive appearance record being as he wasn't picked for the first game this season.

[VillaAlways]

Well Ray Wilkins thinks we're going to be the surprise package this year I hope he's right

[pauliewalnuts]

Well Warnock has officially ranted about the ref now.

If those decisions went against us we would be royally pissed off.  I think the ref only got the sending off right.

Warnock was right about that, except for the sending off, but that's not the point, it's the way he can't resist getting his whingeing fucking face in the camera like he's the first person to be on the end of duff refereeing.

He's entertaining enough, but he's an absolute whining weasel of a man, who I would quite gladly club senseless with a cricket bat. And he still probably wouldn't shut the fuck up.

[VillaZogmariner]

Surely Friedal can't be continuing his consecutive appearance record being as he wasn't picked for the first game this season.

Yes he was.

[eastie]

Surely Friedal can't be continuing his consecutive appearance record being as he wasn't picked for the first game this season.

Yes he was -and they got thrashed at old trafford in it.

[Tuscans]

Ireland was the best he has been - and still shit poor.

What on earth are you talking about?

Do you think that never giving the ball away, finding space and being involved in all our good moves is shit poor?

Aside from the defense, Bannan and Ireland were far and away our best players today.

It is absolutely ridiculous the stick that Ireland gets from some.  You'd think we've got so many good players that we can afford to rubbish him.

I second that. Intelligent player and used the ball very well and moved int the right space every time.

[VillaZogmariner]

Well Warnock has officially ranted about the ref now.

If those decisions went against us we would be royally pissed off.  I think the ref only got the sending off right.

Warnock was right about that, except for the sending off, but that's not the point, it's the way he can't resist getting his whingeing fucking face in the camera like he's the first person to be on the end of duff refereeing.

He's entertaining enough, but he's an absolute whining weasel of a man, who I would quite gladly club senseless with a cricket bat. And he still probably wouldn't shut the fuck up.

Colin Wanker

[Villanation]

Warnock can fuck off, he's stupidly biased and he fucking hates reffs. Every week he has a pop at the referee. Maybe it was a soft penalty, but why did he have his shirt in his hands? They were lucky to have only had 2 bookings all game

To be fair he is always going to be biased but he didnt rant about the ref

Managers are subtly biased, but warnock will always be very in your face and pathetic about it. He never accepts any blame
He was condecending to him at 1st, and then had a pop about players staying on the pitch for Villa
He missed the fact that in the build up to their goal we should have had a corner again
And now he's back on ranting again. What a fucking wanker. I hate him with a passion. It was never a dive from gabby, and hutton never made an attempt to handball the 1st he knows nothing about it. The 2nd was more of a penalty imo, he shouldn't have had his hand out

It was never a dive if that's what he saying, I would be the first to hold my hands up and say Gabby took advantage and on that was lucky to get it, I think a lot of Ref's may have not given it, but at the end of the day, your a defender, you tug a players shirt in the box, what does he expect, Intelligent play by Gabby..

[hawkeye]

We should have had a penalty when delph missed but was taken out by the Goalie, there was an incident when Gabby was pushed over in the box and not given aswell. i thought the ref was crap for both teams

[citizenDJ]

Having just watched the replays, I think I'm probably going to be on my own here but I thought the shirt-tug on Gabby was correctly judged - it stops him going for a header, so he has to stretch hopelessly with his leg. That's a penalty in my book.

As for Hutton's handballs, the second one was not even close to being a penalty (it was the sort of thing Andy Gray always used to claim should be a penalty). The first...yeah, it could have been given but it doesn't look as obvious to me as it seems to Ray Wilkins that he was moving his arm to the ball. I though he tucked his arm in, to be honest.

And Warnock coming out again to complain to the cameras about the referee? That's just really poor form, he should be ashamed of himself.

[berneboy]

I think the ref got the big decisions right.
Despite Neville's argument Gabby clearly did appeal for a foul and did have his shirt pulled.
Handball is never a foul unless it's deliberate so neither Hutton handball was a foul.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Warnock (N) looks and acts like a pantomime dame

Maybe he's a closet Villa fan. Yes darlings, you know who you are.

[pauliewalnuts]

Well Warnock has officially ranted about the ref now.

If those decisions went against us we would be royally pissed off.  I think the ref only got the sending off right.

Warnock was right about that, except for the sending off, but that's not the point, it's the way he can't resist getting his whingeing fucking face in the camera like he's the first person to be on the end of duff refereeing.

He's entertaining enough, but he's an absolute whining weasel of a man, who I would quite gladly club senseless with a cricket bat. And he still probably wouldn't shut the fuck up.

Colin Wanker

76 points.

*wink*

[Rigadon]

Well Warnock has officially ranted about the ref now.

If those decisions went against us we would be royally pissed off.  I think the ref only got the sending off right.

Warnock was right about that, except for the sending off, but that's not the point, it's the way he can't resist getting his whingeing fucking face in the camera like he's the first person to be on the end of duff refereeing.

He's entertaining enough, but he's an absolute whining weasel of a man, who I would quite gladly club senseless with a cricket bat. And he still probably wouldn't shut the fuck up.

Yes, that's bang on.  He is the biggest moaning c*** the game has ever seen.