Lowest Point

[Pat McMahon]

We are absolutely not at one of the worst points in our history, nor I assume was it one of our worst performances ever. Obviously I cannot say this emphatically because I was not there last night but there have been many lower points in my lifetime. 

Let’s have some perspective - this is our first defeat under McLeish. Re the attendance, 22k for a midweek game sounds about right to me in current climes, and I would imagine it compares favourably with most in this round. One off defeats happen to everybody (hopefully losing to Bolton reserves is a one off defeat) – when we won the league we were knocked out of the League Cup by Cambridge for God’s sake.

However there does seem to be a lack of enthusiasm, hope and belief emanating from Villa Park which does not augur well. I always feel that apathy at a football club is worse than outright despair because it embodies an absence of emotion and caring, which are usually key factors in inspiring fans to doing something about it.

We’ve always played better on Wednesdays than Tuesdays too, (in days of old we played at home on Wednesday, Blues on Tuesday) so I saw this one coming…..

[russon]

Tonight was bad, but I've seen much worse performances

Been going for 25+ yrs and I'm struggling to remember a much worse performance. It was truly appalling last night, horrible.

This isn't our lowest point ever but I understand the reason why someone would feel that way. There is absolutely zero enthusiasm from players or fans and it feels like none of us really want to be there.

[NeilH]

There is absolutely zero enthusiasm from players or fans and it feels like none of us really want to be there.

Surely that was also the case at the end of the O'Dreary tenure and whatever the result last night, as far as I am concerned, nothing can come close to the disaster that was the relegation season under Turner and subsequently McNeill. Standing on the Holte End knowing that we had gone down is my lowest point as a Villa fan and unless this season unravels in the way that one did, I doubt it will come close.

I was not there last night for obvious reasons, but what struck me and depressed me was how little I cared about the result. I really wanted to be furious, especially knowing that we’ve spunked away the chance in the only competition we had a realistic chance in. The problem is that the decisions made over the last twelve months have just drained the enthusiasm I have for the club.

Of course I’m still a fan and I’ll be over at some point in the next few months, but its more out of a sense of duty than any real enthusiasm. I want to feel emotionally invested in the issues at the club right now, but I’m finding it hard as the situation could so easily have been avoided had Randy decided not to slash the wage bill so deep and so fast and then go against all logic by employing a man that was always going to divide the fans.

[Legion]

I wasn't furious. Just resigned to sheer indifference. Proud history, mediocre future. The spark seems to have gone.

[dazzyg]

Last nights game was a shambles lets face it until we get rid of McLeish results wil not improve. It took until the 87th minute to get a shot on goal. Regardless on what some fans feel McLeish is not the man for the Villa never has been never will be. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon saying "just because he was small heath manager" yes that is a large part of the problem as he has no heart for the Villa job it's just a bigger salary for him to take home each week. If we are not careful we are looking at bottom four by November. The boo's started last night and let them continue until us fans are heard as we DONT WANT McLeish. QPR will take us apart on Sunday if we play like that again. Why play Ireland when he is totally useless?

[Kingthing]

First of all I'd like to make it clear that I do care. I've come realise that when we're shit I treat a day out at the Villa (usually away) to be a great day out only ruined by 90 minutes of football in the middle. Once in a while we'll go on a run and that'll provide me with a boost I need to keep me going.

Maybe I'm older and wiser, maybe I need to travel up from London to Villa Park every other week and I'd be more pissed off. At the moment I just think, get over it no- one is dead, I'm looking forward to QPR ,I'm excited and that's all I need to keep me happy.

[rutski]

Fickle.

Again.

We played crap, we lost.

Lets smash QPR and get this season started.

dont use the f word on here, you will be banished!

[Mister E]

I wasn't furious. Just resigned to sheer indifference. Proud history, mediocre future. The spark seems to have gone.

This.
What surprised me was the way that on the match thread people were bigging up the League Cup: that was a measure of our decline!

[nick harper]

There's a few of us older supporters who have posted on here about this being nowhere near the low point for the club and they are quite right. Interspersed with the occasional great moment, there has been plenty of mediocrity and despair.

I think what magnifies the disullusion is the fact there has appeared so much promise over the last 5 years in terms of a new dawn where we all thought the owners were going to put this club back among the serious competitors in this country.

This has all withered away very quickly - therefore every poor performance and every defeat feels much harder at the moment.

There is an underlying discontent that a run of poor results will turn into a full blown crisis very quickly.

[Phil from the upper holte]

This is not the lowest point, I think that is yet to come. I do not accept hoofing the ball from back to front. Shocking

[TimTheVillain]

Of course it's not the lowest point, but it feels pretty bloody disappointing all the same I have to say.  The sooner Lerner sells up and fucks off, the better.

Exactly what I think.

He speaketh not, his 'right hand man' has vanished, his CEO has just started shaving.

Concerned is putting it mild.

[Chris Smith]

Only a toddler or a goldfish could conceive this as the lowest point.

[willywombat]

Lowest point I can remember was relegation to the 3rd division coming off the back of a pre-season of real optimism under Tommy Doc. First time I ever truly understood the meaning of the term 'False dawn'. This situation now just feels like an overreaction to a poor result to me, compounded by some people constantly banging on about how shit everything is. Whenever we're struggling as a club there are always people here who seem to take some kind of massochistic pleasure in it, as if the board are doing it on purpose and sniggering down their sleeves at us poor saps

[WarszaVillan]

After the last few years of aiming for champions league and signing expensive players, there's something comfortable about our mediocrity again. Like coming home after an exotic holiday and seeing the rain and grey skies

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

The good news is....

We're still in the FA Cup.