Aston Villa v Bolton Wanderers Post-Match Thread

[kippaxvilla2]

It's all very well saying don't sack McLeish and you probably just cannot do that.  However, this does have a slightly similar ring to 1986-87.  New Scottish manager comes in, they don't lose for a few games and everything looks like it might be turning round, then all of a sudden they start getting ripped new assholes and it's all over.  I genuinely think we will be in a relegation fight this season.

[JUAN PABLO]

I didn't go so can't comment on what exactly went on this evening but it did not sound good.

I have tried to be positive so far this season but I am very, very disappointed with the result this evening

Cue the usual bullshit we read on the OS all last season from Petrov and Co about bouncing back... not interested, words are cheap

Apologise to the 22,000 die hards who went this evening and go out and beat QPR on Sunday

Im afraid Barton will murder our midfield

[UsualSuspect]

Sorry for fucking Mcleish?

Ah yes boo hoo lets all cry for the manager who gets a job that should have been way out of his league and he only earns in excess of 1.5 million a year

Oh yes my heart really bleeds

[garyshawsknee]

The board is the problem very clearly, not the manager. You sell our best two players, then you sell/loan our first choice right back, one of our few centre midfielders on top of releasing a load of players. You then give the manager a fraction of the money to replace them with, you are going to be fucked. That's what we are and it is the board's fault.

It is hard to disagree with that.

That is all true, McCleish has been dealt a bad hand,but there are some good players there,and a better coach of players,would surely bring out alot more in them. Newcastle out played on Sat and they're shit. But it was Randy who chose him,so he must take the blame.

[Dave]

Didn't sound great did it?  Will reserve judgement til those that went down tonight give a verdict. 

What's even more depressing than going out this early is that there will now be some kind of "McLeish Out" thing happening all on the basis of one defeat.  It will be stoked up by the tabloid press and radio.

Some moron starting a thread calling for AM to get the boot after one defeat.  One.  People on the match thread calling both the owner and the manager a 'c***' or a bluenose.  Pathetic.

oooooohhh hark at you, I expect yow am a considerably better fan than me.

One defeat?

This has been coming all season, incase you hadn't noticed Sherlock we havent played any team that is going to be in the Top 10 come the end of the season.

Still you just carry on being a little sheep and believeing all the shit the club comes out with.

We are fucked

Moron.

Can we all stop being quite so emotional?

Argue, shout, hit each other if you need.

But please stop calling each other names.

[west sussex villan]

Why does my poll about weather mcleish should go or not get locked on this site?

[TopDeck113]

It's crap being the spent play thing of a spoilt toddler

Very nicely put.

[ozzjim]

It worries me more that the message is Lerner wants to stay and is in no way thinking of selling. It is all very well selling the good players, but you need a strategy to buy young players that you can sell at profit again, not just sell and develop from in hoping they are going to make the grade.

[TheSandman]

It says something that we are unbeaten in the first five league games yet a pallor of grim depression hangs over the club.

Mismanagement from the top, I'm afraid, from an absentee owner who I suspect doesnt care too much, and clearly knows not the first thing about running a football club.

I can't remember the last time it all felt so futile and miserable.

I don't fully agree with your statement but it's hard to come up with something to refute this.

I feel sorry for McLeish, he was coming with so much baggage.  One bad result and the knives were always going to be out.

But it does seem futile.  And, I can't even be arsed to get angry.

Agree with what you say here Mac. Since day one some people have been waiting to get on McLeish's back. Rightly or wrongly it was the major cost of appointing him where some would just not take to him regardless of what he did.

Had we appointed someone else, even if they were utterly useless, we probably wouldn't see such a reaction on here as we have seen tonight.

[PaulWinch again]

This isn't scaling back, we are being run like the football equivalent of Poundland. Absolutely horrendous, and there is literally no hope with this board and this approach.

[petegoldring]

Why does my poll about weather mcleish should go or not get locked on this site?

Its only a rumour that he can control the rain.

[Greg N'Ash]

get rid of the c*nts. AM is not my choice of manager but he's got some really rotten individuals in the squad. Pity we spent the summer selling the quality.

[SteveD]

Ready for some over-the-top reaction. We've lowered the bar, McLeish is expected to do the same with less quality and is an easy fall guy when it goes tits up. We'll beat Blackburn, lose to Bolton, and vice versa, and the likes of Everton, Fulham, QPR, Norwich etc from now on. We're the middle of the road in mid table, going nowhere and certainly not to Wembley. Houllier was an almost unmitigated disaster, McLeish will bring more discipline and should ensure it's less of a shambles. But the gamble in appointing him is that he will always be a target for some when things go wrong. So calling for him to be sacked after a first defeat is as predictable as it is nonsense. The club is pitching it low - and so we will come up short.

[Fergal]

Fuck it, I am off to bed.

[Apyadg]

It worries me more that the message is Lerner wants to stay and is in no way thinking of selling. It is all very well selling the good players, but you need a strategy to buy young players that you can sell at profit again, not just sell and develop from in hoping they are going to make the grade.

Well, it worked for Doug. Kind of.